Date of Flood - Warning, Long mail.

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From: Comley, Filip <FComley@Solutions.UK.ATT.com>
To: <errancy@infidels.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 12:17 PM
Subject: Date of Flood - Warning, Long mail.


 To all searchers for the truth,

 I have been trying to calculate the date of the flood, and I think I have,
but I would like my calculations to be open to critical scrutiny.  The date
I get for the flood is 2325 BC.  This is relevant to Biblical inerrancy, I
feel, because, if this date is correct, then it will be difficult to explain
why there is a continual record of occupation in Egypt/Mesopotamia /China
etc. covering this date.  Here are the details.  First I compiled a table of
peoples birth dates/death dates from Genesis.  It is necessary to go beyond
Noah to get a date that is identifiable.  In the back of my diary there is a
time-line which says that Abraham moved into Canaan c. 1900BC  This is the
only date not taken from the Bible proper, but being in an appendix of the
Bible, it must be sanctioned by Them.  Here is the list:

 Name Age when Age Age Died Age of Universe
 Firstborn Born lived After when born (AU)
Adam 130 800 930 0
 Seth 105 807 912 130
 Enosh 90 815 905 235
 Kenan 70 840 910 325
 Mahalalel 65 830 895 395
 Jared 162 800 962 460
 Enoch 65 365 300 622
 Methusaleh 187 782 969 687
 Lamech 182 595 777 874
 Noah1 500 450 950 1056
 Shem 100 500 600 1556
 Appachshad 35 403 438 1656
 Shelah 30 403 433 1691
 Eber 34 430 464 1721
 Peleg 30 209 239 1755
 Reu 32 207 239 1785
 Serug 30 200 230 1817
 Nahor 29 119 138 1847
 Terah 70 135 2052 1876
 Abraham 1004 75 1753 2006*
 Isaac 605 120 180 2046
 Jacob 1476 2106
 Joseph 1107

 Numbers in italics are calculated, not taken directly from figures given
in the Bible

 Notes

 Adam --> Noah - Gen 5:3-28
Shem-->Terah - Gen 11:10-26
1Gen 5:32,
2 Gen 11:32
3 Gen 25:7
4 Gen 21:5
5 Gen 25:26
6 Gen 47:28
7 Gen 50:26

 *Age of Abraham

 This is the main part of my argument, but it is the most shakey.  I am
assuming that Abraham was not the first born of Terah's sons.  If he was,
there are lots of other errors in the dates of Genesis.  I am also assuming
he left Haran directly after Terah died.

 Gen 12:4 - Abraham 75 when he left Haran
 Acts 7:4 - He left Haran after Terah died
 Gen 11:32 - Terah 205 when he died
 So, Abraham was 75 when Terah died (if he left straight away). 205 - 75 =
 130, so Terah was 130 when Abraham was born.
 Terah born in 1876 AU, so 1876 +130 = 2006 AU.

 That is how I reached 2006 AU for his birth date. This means he left Haran
for Canaan in 2006 + 75 = 2081 AU

 Now, using the date in the back of my book (Abraham entered Canaan in c.
1900BC), then 2081 AU =  1900 BC (all the following dates are circa).

 Now that means the age of the universe is 1900 + 2081 = 3981 BC (only 23
years out from Bishop Usshers famous 4004 BC, so I am happy that my estimate is
this close).

This means to calculate any BC date from any AU date, all that is
necessary is to subtract the AU date from 3981.

 Now, back to Noah's flood:
Noah was born in 1056 AU.
Gen 7:11 - Flood started when Noah was 600
so Flood started 1656 AU.
This equates to 3981 - 1656 = 2325 BC!

I am sorry that this has been such a long mail, but being scientifically
inclined, I value Peer review to correct any errors that I have made.

 Thank you for your patience, if any of you are interested in commenting I
will be able to read your replies on Thursday night, as that will be next
time I get a chance to read my mails.

 Thanks again for your time, and for the interesting debates I have been
privileged to lurk around.

 Fil

David F:
I got a value for the flood of about 2400 BCE  a couple of years ago.
I usually round to 2500 BCE , at which time as you noted, humanity
was going about their business without regard to the supposed torrent
going on around and above them.
Of course, this problem will not affect any fundamentalist. They'll just invoke
the alleged errors of  archeology and geology, the thousand-year long day
of  YHWH, or whatever ad hoc idea they think will work.

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