Mr. Carter's Hypocrisy

Brian Malcolm errancy@infidels.org
Tue, 11 May 1999 17:14:03 -0700 (00926486043, 000b01be9c0c$576d6400$0700640b@sttls1.wa.home.com)


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>DEREK
>That's what I thought. The argument was not, "why be moral?" but, "where
>does morality come from?".
CARTER No, the argument WAS "why be moral", considering that I started the thread. Poobah, and Till arbitrarily changed the topics because they could not answer the original question. -Jason DAVID Actually it's extremely easy to answer: Human beings are not entirely selfish beings. We are by our natures fairly interdependent and social creatures, and pure selfishness would sever ourselves of an important survival resource - the rest of the social group. It is the height of fundamentalist fallacy to think so poorly of humanity, "God's creation," as to believe that we all would default to absolute and immediate selfish gratification unless we are frightened into submission by Big Brother In The Sky. Immediate gratification is a brief childhood stage that is soon balanced and outstripped by the need for smooth social interaction. POOBAH In the interest of saving Mr. Carter some time, allow me to answer for him. That explanation might all be good, but it isn't a - moral - reason to behave morally. You think I'm kidding. Allow me to quote from my archives: =================================================================
>POOBAH
>The "so what" is, that is the rational reason for acting "morally." What
>started this whole nonsense is your assertion that those who don't agree
>with your objective morality have no "rational reason" for condemning the
>actions of others. I showed you that such rational reasons exist. You
wanted
>an answer, you've got it. It's too bad you don't like it.
CARTER Excuse me, I will clarify. You have no -moral- reason for condemning my actions. I consider subjective condemnation irrational, which is why I used the term. It's not a good enough reason to act morally. It's too bad you don't see that. =================================================================== So you see, David, without morality you have no moral reason for acting morally. Hope that clears things up. 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