Prayer Challenge Update
Mark L. Bakke errancy@infidels.org
Sun, 02 May 1999 13:42:42 -0400 (00925684962, 372C8E92.E229EE06@bakkster.com)
> REV. BAKKE
> My prayer challenge is not directed at God, nor does it seek to tempt or
> cajole God into doing anything.
> ============
> Joe Alward:
>
> >From your friend's point of view, you were asking him to ask his god to prove
> his existence to you by granting his prayer to make himself known to you.
> That's what tempting god means:
>
> 1598 ekpeirazo {ek-pi-rad'-zo}
>
> AV - tempt 4; 4
> 1) to prove, test, thoroughly
> 2) to put to proof God's character and power
>
> The believer can rightly claim that Luke 4 makes it clear that all such
> challenges WILL fail, but not for the reason you claim.
REV. BAKKE
The believer can (and will) claim anything that he wants to claim. The
problem here is that it is the original claim that God answers the
prayers of those who believe in him that is getting them into hot water
when faced with my prayer challenge. One can try to sidestep the
challenge by offering up the "don't tempt God" argument, but that also
must fail. Consider that when Jesus told Satan not to tempt the Lord
thy God, he did so directly. Heck, if I got a revelation from God that
said nothing more than "Don't tempt me, puny human", that, in itself,
would be sufficient proof of his existence.
The bottom line here is that my prayer challenge does not tempt God at
all. It puts Xian doctrine to the test. Those are two very different
animals.
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