King Josiah's death...

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>>>JASON'S FRIEND

>>>"It goes deeper than just what your friend is telling you.  But

>>>to first resolve the apparent discrepancy: the Hebrew word

>>>means "and he died."  This word was placed after "they brought

>>>him to Jerusalem."  So the Hebrew manuscripts we have do

>>>not in fact say for certain that he died in Jerusalem.

>>>snipped a whole bunch

>

>>|aaron|

>>I don't recall anyone on this list bringing this up as a contradiction.

>

>BACH

>Where have you been, my friend?  This is one of Joe Crea's favorite

>contradictions of all time. It has been mentioned on this list at least a

>hundred times or more!!!!

>

>Aaron

>>I know *I* didn't.  I didn't see a contradiction here, since I was fully

>aware that kings ordering their armies to slay someone is in effect the

>king killing someone.  If the verse had said, "and Neco slew Josiah by his

>own sword, wielded by his very own hand", I would call that a

>contradiction. But, of course, maybe someone out there *does* think this is

>a contradiction.  :)

>

>BACH

>The contradiction has to do with where Josiah is said in the OT to have

>actually died....not who killed him or how. Wake up and smell the errancy,

>pal!



|aaron|

Unfortunately, you have my post out of order, and also, I may have
been a little to ambiguous.

My original comments about not seeing "this" as a contradiction
came in the *second* part of my reply to Jason/FL.

As you can see below, the argument from Jason/FL's
friend was about *who* killed Josiah.  This was never
a part of Joseph Crea's argument (as far as I can recall).
The only part I ever perceived as being in error was
the *location* of Josiah's death.

I can smell the errancy, Bach, you and I were just smelling
different parts of the errancy pile.  :)

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>JASON'S FRIEND

>But we also have one passage saying that the archers killed

>him, another saying that Pharaoh Neco killed him.  How

>do we resolve these?  The same way when we say that "the

>president declared today..." yet one of the president's helpers

>declared it for him.  Josiah confronts Neco's army, and this is

>like saying he confronts Neco himself.  Josiah was killed by

>Neco, since Neco's army killed him.  He was shot in Megiddo,

>and perhaps Neco was right there in the line of archers, giving

>them the command.  Hence once again we find no discrepancy,

>but only an apparent discrepancy."



|aaron|

I don't recall anyone on this list bringing this up as a contradiction.
I know *I* didn't.  I didn't see a contradiction here, since I was
fully aware that kings ordering their armies to slay someone
is in effect the king killing someone.  If the verse had said, "and
Neco slew Josiah by his own sword, wielded by his very own
hand", I would call that a contradiction.

But, of course, maybe someone out there *does* think this is
a contradiction.  :)
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--
aaron rainwater

Come away oh human child
To the waters and the wild
With a faery hand in hand
For the world's more full of weeping
Than you can understand.
-- Loreena McKennitt  "Stolen Child"

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