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Matthew Bell wrote:

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>  > ----- Forwarded Message ---------

> > >

> > >DATE:

> > >From:

> > >To: errancy@infidels.org

> > >

> > >Has anyone here at anytime in their life become a Christian, only to

> > struggle with the bible?  I don't believe the bible to be true anymore,

> but

> > I'm having a hard time with what I thought were answered prayers in the

> > past. I am soooo confused.  If my prayers really were answered by God,

> then

> > does that mean the bible is true? I don't expect anyone to have the

> answer

> > to my confusion, I'd just like some input.  I really don't want to

> believe

> > that the bible is true.  I mean God killing babies, and all the slaughter

> He

> > commanded.  I have a really hard time with that and all the

> contradictions.

> > >

> > >--------- End Forwarded Message ---------

> 

> Matthew Bell

> Posts such as the above are pointless, except for PR for Farrell Till and

> the Errancy list. If a Christian is struggling with a particular matter of

> faith, they should be going to Christians for help in resolving such, not

> non-Christians.I mean what does this poster expect to hear back from

> errantists - 'Well, no my friend you just stick in there and God will come

> good with the answers?'  The poster of the above has already made their

> mind up that there is no justifiable reasons for 'God killing babies' and

> that 'all the contradictions' actually are contradictions. I reckon they

> have been reading to much of the Secular Web and not of the Bible they are

> 'doubting'. I would of course be happy to dialogue with the individual on

> his current predicament.

> 

 Dave G.
Just the response I would expect from Matt.  In reality, the "nonmember" 
is clearly struggling with his/her faith, and is asking a perfectly
logical 
question.  

I would start by asking myself, is it possible for the "prayer" to have
been answered by any logical natural means..ie (natural event, outcome
already set in motion by other normal events...etc)?
For example, you pray for someone who is sick to be healed.  They are
healed 
by medical personnel.  Or, they recover but the physicians are
surprised.
You must ask yourself, does science know all there is to know about
human
biology/physiology?  The answer is...No!  Just because science is at a
loss
to explain the recovery, doesn't make it a miracle by a long shot.
To claim any recovery is a "miracle" is to beg the question that medical 
science has all the answers.  
Another example: you pray to be promoted at work.  Before your
promotion,
you begin working harder at your job.  Just doing the best you can, and
maybe
a little extra.  You get the promotion.  Is it more likely you were
promoted
because of the prayer, or your outstanding performance at work?

And yes, as you noted above, it is hard to get past the evil committed
by the "God of Love".  Your relationship with Yahweh is more like anyone
with an abusive lover. "You better love me, or I'll kill you"
(spiritually
of course, in the case of Yahweh).

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