"Turning away from god"

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> Ed

> 

> I think, however, that you and many of the list members are not typical of

> skeptics or freethinkers.  As you know, I'm active in the Campus

> Freethought Alliance and other organizations, and it is my experience that

> the significant majority of nontheists were never Christians in the first

> place. (I use nontheistic rather loosely here, as there are nontheistic

> Christians as well, you know.) It seems that generally one has to be either

> indoctrinated before one learns to think critically, or one has to become

> indoctrinated at a time of personal crisis or trauma to embrace a theistic

> thought system.


ATTORNEY REVEREND FLUFFY
I always read all of the messages that hit this listserv, then either save
them (rare), or cast them into the Bit Bucket of Eternal Damnation.  The
foregoing message, however, has been whirring around on my hard drive for a
number of days now.

I'll bite.  Other than being an unsolvable paradox, what in the name of
Jehovah is a "nontheistic Christian"?

On the separate issue of Jesus using "Du sagst ..." while addressing Ponty
P., I think I understand the subtlety you seem to suggest.  Are the German
translators putting contempt into Jesus' attitude?  Or, are the German
translators expressing their personal contempt for Pilate?  Either way, it
does not bode well for the myth of "scholarly" translations of the bible.

[For those of you who don't know what the hell is going on: A German would
never address an adult stranger as "du," meaning "you."  The only appropriate
word Jesus could possibly use in addressing Pontius Pilate is the formal
"Sie," also meaning "you."  For Jesus to address Governor Ponty with "Du
sagst ... " ("You said ...") would be a sign of fairly unbridled contempt.]

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