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> > POOBAH

> > Fallacy of special pleading. Jason would not accept such arguments 

> > for

> > Allah, Vishnu, et. al.

> 

> STB

> Would you accept them Poobah?  I venture not.  So you and Jason agree on

> that.


Tim
So what? Poobah and Jason would not accept Vishnu. If we had a Hindu here,
the Hindu and I would not accept Jesus. None of these subjective opinions
about different religions point to which one is true.



> > 

> > POOBAH

> > Fallacy of false analogy. Murder/rape/love/depression, or the 

> > effects thereof, can all be objectively witnessed. Jason's personal 

>>god, on the other hand cannot.

 

> STB

> What if someone experienced an encounter?  Say a miracle?  What if I told

> you I had a degenerative disease in my bones and was healed?  And the

> bone actually shrank back in its place.  That was observable by numerous

> family, friends and doctors.  I prayed that God would heal me.  Why me? 

> Don't know.  But he did. 


Tim
A Hindu prays to Vishnu and believes he is healed. A Muslim prays to Allah
and believes he is healed. Again, all these subjective experiences 
do not point to one true religion, so your experience is worthless in
determining which "God" is true, unless you can somehow prove that your
experience is real, and the others false. Good luck.


>STB

> I believe that creation is another way of seeing God, or at least His

> works.  I just can't believe it happened by chance.  It's far too

> perfect.


Tim
Than I can assume you are a Pagan, because there is a Pagan creation
story involving the Titans. In fact, there are hundreds, if not 
thousands of creation stories. You beleive the world was created.
SO WHAT. That doesn't make Yahweh the one and only living God.
 

> STB

> What are some examples of absolute truth?


Tim
This is not a philosophy class, and morality has been done to death.
What is not an absolute truth are your relgious experiences. Please
stick to the issue at hand, and remain on the list long enough to
engage in debate.


> STB

> He is doing ok  :-)  But I am biased.


Tim
If you think he is doing OK, then you desperately need a trip to 

http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html

 

> Shawn T. Be'llon    

> Faith In Yahweh, Inc

> Col. 3:12-14



 Tim 
 Ah, faith in a mythical tribal war God. The same type of faith that led 
 the Carthaginians to murder their own children. Isn't faith a wonderful 
 thing?  



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