A comment

Shawn T Bellon errancy@infidels.org
Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:58:11 -0500 (00929087891, 19990610.221055.-482735.9.sbellon@juno.com) 


On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:34:30 -0400 "Rev. G. R. Gaudreau"
<grgaud@sprint.ca> writes:

> >RevGaud

> >What I meant was that your supposition was based on the speculation 

> 

> >"if existing...", that is, you said "if God exists it proves he 

> works 

> >in individual lives." You can't have it as proof that God works in 

> >people's lives while at the same time saying "if he exists." 

> >

> >You're begging the questions: What "proof" do you have that "God is 

> a 

> >persoanl God?" And what proof do you have that he works in 

> individual 

> >lives? Personal experience is not proof that God exists and it is 

> not 

> >proof that God is a "personal God". It isn't proof of anything but 

> a 

> >personal experience. It's all very subjective.

> 

> 

> Jason:

> Is murder subjective? Is rape subjective? Those are personal 

> experiences to. 

> Using the logic you've used, i could say that love doesn't exist. I 

> could

> say that depression doesn't exist. I could say that fear doesn't 

> exist.

> Those are personal experiences to. 


STB
Go brother!


> RevGaud

> Jason please! No offense but this ia really lame. Murder and rape 

> are 

> crimes that can be seen by multiple witnesses and as such can be 

> proven beyong doubt, or at least with reasonable certainty. They 

> don't compare with an invisible God no one has ever seen or heard. 

> And they don't compare with the so-called experience of having "God 

> work in your heart." As personal as rape and murder may be, at least 

> 

> I can see them or feel them and so can multiple witnesses, unlike 

> having "God work in youe heart," which is purely subjective. C'mon 

> man, THINK!


STB
What does seeing those "crimes" have to do with anything?  Why are those
things bad?
 

> JASON

> Do you believe in moral absolutes? If you don't and think that it's

> relative, then you deny an absolute's defense. If you say that moral

> absolutes do not exist, it's a contradiction because that in itself 

> is an

> absolute. Morality is personal experience to. Does that mean it's 

> limited

> to one person?

> 

> RevGaud

> The morality merry-go-round AGAIN?!?!? No way I'm getting into this. 

> 

> Just deal with my above reply, please.


STB
Rev, your above reply is insufficient and a contradiction.

Shawn T. Be'llon   <><   
Faith In Yahweh, Inc
Col. 3:12-14