Burden of Proof and John 11

Christian Doscher errancy@infidels.org
Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:02:39 PDT (00928281759, 19990601190241.10104.qmail@hotmail.com)


Dear List memebers and especially the Inerrantists,


I am currently debating a Christian over the issue of whether John chapter 
11 contains any evidence of what all Christians believe, namely that Lazarus 
died twice.

I tried to show that because Jesus said "i am the resurrection" in the 
context of raising lazarus to life again, that therefore this bringing back 
Lazarus to life was "resurrection", and hence, immortality, and NOT merely 
"rescusitation".

But this dude keeps talking about the burden of proof, saying that 
i..."never proved that Lazarus never died again..."

Something is fishy here, since this is a negative proposition which he is 
asking proof for.

I know the skeptics here will help me out, but would the Christians here on 
this list please tell me what is wrong logically with saying
"But you never proved that Lazarus didn't die again..."?

I have been trying for the last two months to show this dude that his 
specific assertion, that Lazarus died later on after this incident in John 
11, is not protected or proved by asking me to prove the negative 
proposition "lazarus never died again"

Instead, I find Hebrews 9:27 to be the reason why it is appointed unto man 
to die once, and after this the judgement.

I think it is the Christian's responsibility to prove that Lazarus DID die 
again, a request for positive evidence from the skeptics.

Please review our exchanges at

http://www.singlec.com/conversations/disc4_frm.htm

then post something there to show this Christian how silly it is to request 
evidence to support a negative proposition.

The fallacy he committs is the "AD IGNORANTIAM" fallacey (the real name!), 
but he doesn't seem to be too impressed.

I hope to see Matt's comments here as well.

Thanks,

skepticbud@aol.com


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