A moral God?
Matthew Bell errancy@infidels.org
Mon, 31 May 1999 14:54:28 +0100 (00928176868, 199905311420.PAA26065@klingon.netkonect.co.uk)
>>Matthew Bell
>>According to the dictionary definition I cited there are three
>>aspects which comprise murder:
>>
>>1. Unlawful.
>>2. Premeditated.
>>3. Done by one human being by another.
>>
>>I already stated I am not too concerned about 3, so that
>>leaves 1 and 2. You have established 2 in Genesis 7, not
>>how about establishing 1 with the same passage or any
>>other passage you care to use?
>
>AVATAR8
>1. Unlawful: One of the ten commandments is, "Thou shall not kill."
>Call it murder if you like, as if that makes a difference, but you can't
>deny that God was a heartless bully who killed people just because He
>could.
Matthew Bell
There is most certainly a difference between killing and murdering. It is
not considered murder to kill in war, nor in some countries to kill as a
punishment for certain crimes, nor in the right circumstances to kill in
defence of one's own life or the life (lives) of another (others), nor for
law enforcement officers to kill where necessary. You need to show that
God's act in Genesis 7 or anywhere else was murder and not lawful killing,
the law of course being Himself, as the ten commandments were not
established until after Genesis 7 occurred.
>
> 2. Premeditated: I'm quite sure he thought about it before-hand, but
> than again, He does seem like an uncontrolled, mindless force at times.
Matthew Bell
I have already conceded that in Genesis 7 it was premeditated.
>
> 3 Done to one human being by another: Jesus was a man, except he didn't
> have any balls.
Matthew Bell
I have already stated that I am not too concerned with this point. Jesus
had enough 'balls' to die for the likes of you, now that it saying
something.
Thanks
M.Bell