A little response to "How Did the Apostles Die?"
Brian Dean errancy@infidels.org
Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:31:29 -0400 (00933406289, 37A26001.34976D06@worldnet.att.net)
> > > BAKKE
> > > What sort of "miracle" is this? A bunch of believers who are expecting
> > > to see a "sun miracle" stare into the Sun all morning and are then
> > > "astounded" to see motion and colors? A simple understanding of how the
> > > optic nerve fatigues due to the overstimulation produced by a bright
> > > light is sufficient to explain this "miracle". The young child who
> > > claimed to have received the promise from the Virgin Mary was said by
> > > her own mother to be delusional.
> >
> > BRIDEAN
> > Oh, I forgot. Other than the godless communists that converted on the spot
> > please also explain the following:
> > 1) The "sun miracle" occured after a heavy rain and many of the pilgrims were
> > in the rain for a long time. Please explain how after the "sun miracle" their
> > clothes were completely dry. I hardly think that overstimulation of the
> > optic nerves would produce that effect.
>
> BAKKE
> Sounds to me like you've been reading the same book from which a
> respondent on my web site quoted while we discussed Fatima (and other
> Catholic "miracles"). The "miracle of the dry clothes" fails to take
> into account the amount of time that passed between the end of the rain
> (early in the morning) and the "sun miracle" sighting itself (several
> hours later). It also fails to take into account the hot and arid
> climate of that area of the Iberian peninsula. Such a climate will
> accelerate the drying of wet clothes.
>
> > BRIDEAN
> > 2) Please explain how Mary knew that Russia was going to become a major
> > threat given that Russia was very weak at the time (this was just prior to
> > the Bulshivik revolution) and was unable to feed it's own people.
>
> BAKKE
> Oh, really? Just how did "Mary" prophesy this? In addition, since
> you've acknowledged that the Fatima sighting took place before the
> Bolshevik Revolution, just how do you account for the presence of
> "godless communists"?
BRIDEAN
Well I remember reading a book called "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl
Marx. Hmm, doesn't that book have "Communist" in the title? Hmm, interesting.
Wonder when that book was written, let me check ... hmm looks like it was
written in 1848. Hmm, when did Fatima occur? 1917? Well let's see, last time
I took math 1917 was a greater number than 1848. And by the way, Karl Marx
mentions that there were Communists who meet on certain occasions at the time
he wrote "Communist Manifesto". Since the Bulshevik revolution had not occured
yet please explain how Karl Marx would know about Communism, how he would
know of certain people who meet to discuss Communism and thereby recommend
it's practice?