A little response to "How Did the Apostles Die?"
Brian Dean errancy@infidels.org
Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:53:32 -0400 (00933317612, 37A1059B.E65D3B64@worldnet.att.net)
> >Jean (pulling out handfuls of hair)
> >No, no no! The rejection of miracles is not "automatic" -- the rejection
> is
> >predicated on the lack of evidence there is to support the miraculous
> claim.
> >You can get us to believe the miraculous claim very easily by presenting
> some
> >solid evidence that the happening was "miraculous" and can't be explained
> by
> >a simpler, more direct answer. How many times does this need to be said?
>
> Matthew Bell
> It doesn't need to be said any times, as it is fallacious. Before one
> discusses whether a or b or c was a miracle, one needs to deal with the
> philosophical question of whether miracles can or cannot occur, and if so
> what probability of them doing so exists. Until that issue is resolved one
> can progress no further as it determines the presuppositions that one
> approaches the whole subject of miracles.
>
> Thanks
> M.Bell
BRIDEAN
I for one believe in miracles. One of the miracles I believe in is the case of
a three year old girl by the name of Romy Crees. She claimed that she was
a reincarnation of a black man by the name of Joe Jackson. She was able
to give specific information such as the leg injury that Joe Jackson's mother
had, where her mother lived, ect. This was all checked and verified by her
parents (who were Roman Catholic and did not believe in reincarnation) as
well as experts in the field such as Dr. Greg States of Des Moine Iowa.
However, I suspect that Matt Bell would dismiss the possibility of reincarnation
out of hand, (just like the atheist would dismiss miracles in general out of
hand) therefore he is obliged to prove that reincarnation can NOT occur
using his own logic.