A little response to "How Did the Apostles Die?"
glenn civello errancy@infidels.org
Sun, 25 Jul 1999 12:01:08 -0400 (00932936468, 014d01bed6b6$e93f8a40$6db37780@glenn.umass.edu)
THEO2217
>> As for the claim about Emperor Vespasian, I do not know whether he healed
a blind man with a withered hand. I have never looked at those historical
documents. However, I must point out that you quoted this portion in
response to my claim that we should more or less accept what documents say
about non-supernatural events until we can prove the documents to be
inaccurate. Hence, your statement about Vespasian has nothing to do with
that particular argument I had made. The New Testament writers had no
earthly thing to gain (except martyrdom) by describing the miracles of
Christ; Vespasian, on the other hand, could gain political power and
prestige. Also, the New Testament descriptions of events correspond to a
large extent to the same events as mentioned in Josephus' "Antiquities"
(e.g. the famine mentioned in Acts 11:28 is also told of in Antiquities
20:51-3, 101; Herod's death in Acts 12:23, Antiquities 19:343-52.)
ATTORNEY REVEREND FLUFFY
> I don't understand why unremarkable events such as famines and deaths add
credibility to the scriptures if those scriptures agree with non-biblical
sources. If contemporary meteorologists, the bible, and Antiquities all
agree that Herod was married on a sunny day, what of it? If you wade
through the Book of Mormon, it's a near certainty that you'll find SOMETHING
that's true. And whatever you find in the Book of Mormon that's true, it's
almost certain that it will unremarkable -- as unremarkable as famines, and
Herod's death.
Glenn:
X-list member Aaron Rainwater sometime used the following signature line:
"A lie is best hidden sandwiched between two truths"
That is a truism, if I ever saw one.