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TERRY
I most definitely think that the Flood occurred before any of the history,
(with the exception of the Ice Cores) you mention.

POOBAH
But there are still two problems, Terry. The first is the ice cores;
remember, this wasn't some debunker with an axe to grind drilling into
Antarctica, these are scientists investigating global warming. It is only
tangentially that they have shown that there was no global flood in at least
420,000 years. That's a real problem. Will you reject any conclusions they
draw about global warming because they obviously are misinterpreting the age
of the ice?

Secondly, the Bible is a problem if you would like to place the Flood
earlier than 2500BC (well really earlier than 2200BC, but I wouldn't quibble
over a few hundred years). Genesis 11 lists the generations from Shem to
Abram, and it lists them like this:

These are the generations of Shem: Shem was an hundred years old, and begat
Arphaxad two years after the flood:
And Shem lived after he begat Arphaxad five hundred years, and begat sons
and daughters.
And Arphaxad lived five and thirty years, and begat Salah:
And Arphaxad lived after he begat Salah four hundred and three years, and
begat sons and daughters.
And Salah lived thirty years, and begat Eber:
Etc. etc. all the way down, all eleven generations from Shem to Abram. Note
that it specifically says who begat whom, and at what age, so it's no use
arguing that "son of" really means "descendant of." You add up all of the
years in Gen11: 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24 & 26, and you get 292 years
from the flood to the birth of Abram. According to archeology, the time of
Abram would have been around, let's use the oldest possible date, 1900BC. So
even if I account for the 100 years old or so Abram was when the stories
about him started, you can't put the flood much later than 2300BC without
the Bible being wrong (BTW, the references to Abram being from "Ur of the
Chaldees" is also a 1000+ year anachronism - it's like a Native American
story set in 1000AD describing someone as being from New York State - just
another nail in the coffin). If you move the flood too far back into
history, and you have problems with Exodus & then the reign of King Solomon,
based on exactly the same sort of "begat" problem, so unless you are seeing
something I'm not, the flood can't have occurred before civilizations
existed in China, Egypt, Mesopotamia et. al., or even if it did the Bible is
still wrong.

So how do you resolve these problems in your mind, Terry?

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