Noahs inbred family tree
kanwal kanwal@giasdl01.vsnl.net.in
Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:24:19 +0530 (00915569659, 01be38bb$45e30be0$LocalHost@kanwal.vsnl.net.in)
Yes it does help that today the population of jews is 14,000,000 . The eight
or four couples(am i right in assuming four couples) cannot produce and
multiply to 14 millions.Mahabharat(war epic of hindus) states that the king
dhritrashtra had one hundred sons.I have not come across any example where
one man had more than hundred sons.LET US ASSUME THAT ALL produced 100 sons,
even then population will not be 14 million.What was the average age of man
2000bc and upto 1800, i donot know but some percentage of populations is
always dying ,even without acts of vengence by the meriful gods and their
agents.Please,please ponder over what is truth.
kanwal
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Crea <Joseph.Crea@worldnet.att.net>
To: ERRANCY <errancy@infidels.org>
Date: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: Noahs inbred family tree
>Hello again, Achilles!
>
>At 11:54 AM 1/4/99 -0500, achillesz@usa.net wrote:
>>> Frankly,I am knowledgeable about this subject and hence following
queries;
>>> 1.the persons saved were 8 in the boat or arc.Does it apply to only jews
>>> or the whole of world at that time or the population affected in the
>>> flooded area? 2.What is the present population of jews(forget
christians)?
>>> Is it possible that eight persons could multiply over four thousand
years
>>> to the present level of jewish population? The rationalism has no place
in
>>> the religion of man either in east or west. kanwal
>>
>>Achilles
>>
>>Greetings Kanwal,
>>
>>The orthodox xtian reading of this story is that the flood covered the
entire
>>earth, killing not just all people but also all land animals not in the
ark.
>>This brings to mind some very interesting questions, such as how Noah
would
>>have gotten polar bears to come to mesopotamia, and how he got them back
to
>the
>>arctic afterwards... not to mention that it makes no sense in light of
>>archaeological evidence of local continuity over this time in areas as far
>>flung as australia and north america.
>
>CREA
> There's a great inconsistency in the Flood story, particularly at the
>end where YHWH declares that never again will he destroy ALL that lives.
>Now, unless God has stopped being a God of truth and become a God of
>hyperbole, this can only be read as meaning that ALL life except for the
>contents of the ark was destroyed in the flood including all aquatic life.
>Elsewhere in the account there are, indeed, references which are limited to
>just creatures that move on the surface of the "ground", so which part of
>the account is one to accept?
>
>ACHILLES
>>There are of course, more reasonable readings such as your questions
suggest -
>>i.e. the account could be based on a real flood which covered only
>mesopotamia,
>>and Noah et. al. were the only survivors for this area, however this is
not
>>often discussed because 1) it is not satisfactory at all to xtians who
insist
>>the story is 100% true and 2) those who do not believe the bible is
innerrant
>>don't need to make sense of the account at all.
>>
>>On your second question, I have no idea what the present population of
jews
>is,
>>perhaps someone else does?
>
>
>
>CREA
> My trusty (though now a trifle rusty) 1997 copy of the __Information
>Please Almanac__ reports the approximate, total global population of Jews
>(treated as a religion, NOT as a biologically distinct sub-species of Homo
>Sapiens) at some 14,117,000 individuals. Hope that this helps.
>
>
>With Mettaa,
>
>Joseph Crea
><Joseph.Crea@worldnet.att.net>
>
>