Biblical/Jesus errors
David Billo dbillo@telos.ca
Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:29:00 -0500 (00915312540, 199901021526.KAA19030@telos.ca)
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> From: by way of Farrell Till <jftill@midwest.net>
<owner-errancy@infidels.org>
> To: errancy@infidels.org
> Subject: Re: Biblical/Jesus errors
> Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 2:47 AM
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> JILO
> The Pharisees attempted on several occasoins to catch Jesus in error but
> they could not. And dont you think that who were so skilled in the law
and
> so prideful of it that even wore little scrolls on their foreheads would
not
> have recognized this error in Jesus' words or even after the writing of
> those words would have delightfully pointe dout the error? But they went
> away frustrated and that didnt stop them they tried again and eventually
> attacked his person and eventually put him to death.
DB
This answer, of course, begs the question of the historical accuracy of the
NT documents. Was it really the Pharisees who were 'frustrated', or was it
the writer of the gospel who, in an attempt to paint Jesus as sophically
superior to the Pharisees, could not even come up with a consistent story?
JILO
> I expect unbelievers to somehow find apparent weak points while ignoring
the
> incredible cohesiveness including the mountain of already fulfilled
prophecy
> in the bible.....they cant help it. And believers cant help believing
because
> of Gods revelation of Himself to us including His Spirit of joy love and
grace
> within us.
>
> hope this helps
DB
Yeah, thanks. I've always believed that stuff about the 'cohesiveness' and
the 'mountain of fulfilled prophecy' too. A few weeks of lurking on this
list, not to mention some serious study elsewhere and on the 'net, have
shown me that this 'cohesiveness' is pretty shaky, and the 'mountain' is
more like the proverbial molehill. The books that make up the bible, after
all, were hand picked by men, so any consistency you might see doesn't have
to be the result of a divine overseer.
I challenge you to produce a definite example of a fulfilled prophecy that
doesn't rely on a meaning not intended by the original writer, a post hoc
application, a quoted 'scripture' that can't even be found in the OT, or
more examples of question begging.
I know we've just recently been through these threads, but, IMHO these are
two of the top examples of biblical rhetoric I've been exposed to. Every
'preacher' that has popped up on this list has spouted then in one form or
another, usually early on before getting an idea of the flames that this
kind of question begging will attract.
BTW Farrell, I just got subscribed again. Is that an annual thing?