PS. Can you suggest a forum with a burden of less than 50 messages or so a day where we could take this discussion? Usenet or mailing list are both acceptable. But this is getting quite far from an Errancy subject. Jeff -- \/ http://www.redhat.com/ Jeff Epler jepler@inetnebr.com To have died once is enough. -- Publius Vergilius Maro (Virgil)