Carter's nihlism and judgementalism

Farrell Till jftill@midwest.net
Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:19:55 -0800 (00918821995, 2.2.32.19990212061955.00874d34@midwest.net)


At 02:06 PM 2/11/99 -0500, Jason Carter wrote:

>At 10:43 AM 2/11/99 -0800, you wrote:
>>> CARTER
>>> Davis, this is very simple, and I am surprised you have not caught on yet.
>>> You cannot demonstrate the PHYSICAL reality of a NON-PHYSICAL entity. It's
>>> like saying, "Demonstrate the physical reality of 'love.'"
>>
>>TILL
>>Hmm, Carter doesn't know what the fallacy of reification is. Perhaps he
>>should check into it.
>
>Carter,
>Actually Till, I do, which is why I pointed it out as an absurdity.
>
TILL A "nonphysical" entity, if such exists, would not be an abstraction like "love" or "courage" or "beauty," which have no existence except as concepts in the minds of those who formulate them. If minds didn't exist, then the abstractions would not exist. On the other hand, if a "nonphysical" entity exists, then it would exist whether minds are aware of it or not. Hence, you resorted to the fallacy of reification by treating "love" as if it were a real existent. So if seems that you don't know what the fallacy of reification is after all. Had you said, "You cannot demonstrate the physical reality of a nonphysical entity like God any more than you can demonstrate the physical reality of a nonphysical entity like Satan," your analogy would have been appropriate, since God and Satan, if they exist, would be parallel as nonphysical entities. Farrell Till Skepticism, Inc. jftill@midwest.net