Martyrdom 2.1

Ray & Sandy Briggs brite1@inetworld.net
Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:35:31 -0800 (PST) (00918736531, v01530500b2e7074cacf9@[207.167.114.160]) 

At 23:04 2/10/99, Jason Carter wrote:

>At 11:16 PM 2/8/99 -0800, you wrote:

>>> >POOBAH

>>> >Mr. Carter, the fact that you consider the evidence for George

>Washington to

>>> >be equivalent to the evidence for Jesus speaks volumes for your ability to

>>> >accept basic historical information.

>>>

>>> CARTER

>>> It more speaks volumes concerning your anti-theistic worlview.

>>>

>>Dave G.

>>In reality, this speaks more of your theological brainwashing than

>>of our skeptical world view.  Your idea of *evidence* would be

>>sufficient to prove the existence of any deity you desire (at

>>least to you).

>

>CARTER

>Dave, I'm afraid you have misunderstood the entire point. My assertion is

>that you can be ridiculously skeptical of everything. The most common

>rebuttal to my sources, for instance, is the pathetic plea of "it's simply

>hearsay." Excuse me, is not most of our history hearsay? Did Josephus

>witness all the events he wrote about? Did Philo, did Tactitus? I'll give

>you a hint - no. Well gosh darn, I guess we must throw them out as

>witnesses! The point was that there are those in this group who are causing

>me to shake my head in amazement at their "intelligent skepticism."

>

Ray:
Why is it that you cannot get the difference in believability between what
a Josephus might say about what Herod or Augustus did at such and such a
time and an evangelist telling us that Jesus walked on water? Why is it
that although this dramatic difference in kind has been pointed out to you
over and over again you return to saying this kind of nonsense? If Josephus
told us that Herod walked on the water, neither you nor anyone else would
believe it. How is it possible to reason with someone that cannot see the
difference between accepting unremarkable reports about an historical
figure by a known historian and accepting incredible reports from an
anonymous author about a being who he believes is a God? Talk about shaking
ones head in amazement!

Regards, Ray