Crucifixion Burials

JAlw@aol.com JAlw@aol.com
Sat, 6 Feb 1999 02:20:47 EST (00918307247, 3b96314b.36bbed4f@aol.com)


In a message dated 99-02-06 02:13:28 EST, you write:

<< Subj:	 Re: Crucifixion Burials
 Date:	99-02-06 02:13:28 EST
 From:	achillesz@usa.net (Achilles)
 Sender:	owner-errancy@infidels.org
 To:	errancy@infidels.org
 
 On 6 Feb 99, at 1:46, JAlw@aol.com wrote:
 
 > Bach:
 > 
 >  I saw a television documentary
 >  that seems to bear out what Ed is saying......that of all the burial
 >  sites that have been excavated in the ANME area, only one set of bones
 >  found in an ossuary with others showed any obvious signs of death by
 >  crucifixion.....it had a bent over metal spike still in place between
 >  bones of either the feet or hands as I recall.    >>
 > ================
 > Joe Alward:
 > 
 > Oh, oh.  I hope you're wrong about this Bach.  I just read a post from
 > Crea that indicated that the skeleton from the ossuary had a spike driven
 > through the ankle bone, not "between" bones.  Your comment goes directly
 > to the very heart of my question about the archaeological evidence Tyler
 > has been claiming virtually proves that burial of the remains of crucified
 > persons virtually never occurred.  I've been trying to discover whether
 > nails were almost always driven throught bone, or through flesh.  If the
 > latter, then there would be no evidence to find, unless the remains had
 > been mummified and showed nail holes through flesh.  In the earlier post I
 > asked for clarification:  does anyone have credible information which
 > shows that nails went through the bones and not around them?  Also, what's
 > the story with the skeleton from the ossuary? Did the nail go through the
 > ankle bone as Crea's reference noted, or around it, as Bach is indicating?
 
 Achilles
 It doesn't matter Joe. Look at your hand. Get a good picture of those bones. 
 Now imagine a *very* large nail driven through it (these were more like a 
 railroad spike than the nails a carpenter today would use.) There just isn't 
 room for it, even if it goes between the bones they break. Even if by some 
 miracle it doesn't break, there's going to be a very nasty scratch, and a 
 physical specialist can tell literally at a glance whether such a scratch was
 part of the death trauma or an old wound. 
 
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Joe Alward:

Straw man.  You assume that nails *were* driven through the hands, not the
wrists (where there's more room for the nail to pass without striking bone),
AND you assume the Romans used a spike large enough to rebut my argument.  I
don't have evidence they didn't; do you have evidence they DID?