Rule of "Audience" (Was re: The Rich Man)

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>> Matthew Bell

>> There would only be a penalty if the justifications

>> given for not complying were unsatisfactory to God.

>> If there were to be a penalty I would envisage such

>> to be chastisement, not rejection. A Christian is

>> saved by faith, not works.



>Achilles

>I was always taught that true faith inevitably produced

>the proper works. Any comment on that notion?



|rainwater|

I've contemplated on that one quite a bit.  It seems to
me that even those who we traditionally classify as
saved by works are actually saved by faith.  Take the
Jews.  Why would a Jewish person follow the law?
Because they "have faith" that it is God's law, and
through this, they desire to follow it.  The Christian
has "faith" that Jesus has laid down some laws for
them, and because they believe it is God's law, they
"follow" it.  It seems to be similar to that whole
Chicken & The Egg problem.  If you don't do the
good works, then you're not really saved; if you do,
then you may be, but you could be.  I don't see how
that is much different from Judaism or especially
Islam, since I was under the impression that Allah
gets kind of pissed if you don't "believe" He is the
True God.  Of course, I'm not trained in all the fine
philosophical points of atonement or whatever, so
I'm probably just sounding really stupid.  Please
continue...

--
aaron rainwater

"And isn't sanity really just a one trick pony anyway?
I mean, all you get is one trick!  Rational thinking.
But when you're good and crazy, oooh!! The sky's the
limit!"  -- The Tick

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