Resurrection (Alward rebuts Carter)

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> CARTER

> Unfortunately, you have yet to demonstrate which argument of mine are

> "flaccid".

> The very nature of this list is that we can not discuss in depth the entire

> historicity of the Biblical accounts, though we can skim the surface.

>

> If I were as skeptical as some here, I would doubt whether Washington was

> the first president, or that the Constitution was really written by the

> founding fathers, or that Shakespeare really existed. I choose to not defy

> commonsense on these matters.


ELF
    First of all, can you tell me what difference it would make to the opertion
of, oh, the internet and the courts if the individuals we currently credit with
having written the constitution in fact did not? Or if Washington wasn't really
the first Preisdent? If Shaekespeare never lived, does that change one word, or
the value of the words, of his acknowledgedly fictional works of literature?

    Now, if Jesus never existed, or at least the stories are untrue -- what then
is the status of the truth of Christianity?

    Notice any difference in the two situations?


>  CARTER

>

> Throwing out a bunch of "what if's" is not good argumentation.


ELF    Um, that rather depends on the argument doesn't it?


> CARTER

>

> Things like, "What if Jesus was really an alien, and that's how he rose

> from the dead. Prove me wrong!", or "How do we not know that a secret

> potion which can bring people back to life was not given to Jesus by a

> witch?", or even "What if the nails on the cross were really rubber?" are

> just about as ridiculous as the things that are asserted here.


ELF    Nor more ridiculous than than the notion that an omnipotent, omniscient,
immortal, universe spanning entity takes any interest in the petty foilables of
us here on earth in the first place.


> CARTER



> It is amusing that while I am accused of begging the question, the only

> argumentation you engage in is the same thing. Present EVIDENCE that the

> disciples stole the body, or the Christ did not die, and maybe I will be

> swayed. However, I think you'll find its pretty hard to accomplish such a

> feat.

>


ELF    Before we need to either, first we need some reason to believe that the
whole batch of stories aren't just 1st/2nd century urban legends.

    The easiest way to prove that Superman can't fly is to point out that by all
appearances he is merely a fictional creation of a 1930's comic book publisher.

¡Salud!

Mike, aka Elfish Chimera

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