Blood, Water and Magicians

Achilles Sophia achillesz@usa.net
Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:48:34 -0400 (00906688114, 20483441928309@cfagroup.com)



>---Achilles Sophia <achillesz@usa.net> wrote:
>> >BRYCE
>> > Now, I'm going to play "Matt's advocate." There is no reason
>> >that the water would have to be drinkable in order for it to be
>> >changed into blood. So they could have dug up the water, found it
>> >unfit for drinking yet fit for 'bloodifying.' I've never
>comprehended
>> >Matt's insistence that the subterrainean water needed to be
>drinkable.
>> > Now can we all get past this so we can ask Matt how all the cattle
>> >and horses died three times?
>> >
>> > I still don't know why Matt doesn't want me on his list. I'm so
>> >GOOD at this!!!!
>
>> ACHILLES
>> *ROFL* Umm.. sadly what you get when you filter blood through sand
>is still
>> blood. So this still doesn't work. And yes, I have actually
>performed the
>> procedure in question. Good try though.
>>
>> I don't know why Matt doesn't want you either, you do a much better
>job of
>> defending the bible than he does...
>>
>>
>> Achilles
>
>BRYCE
>You really tried it? Okay, now I feel silly for claiming that you
>could filter the blood to get salt water. I'd be interested in the
>specifics of the experiment (especially what quality sand was used
>(did you try filtering through clay? Perhaps the smaller particles
>would make a difference)).
ACHILLES Yep, tried it years ago. At least a pint of goat blood through a bucket of sand with a fine wire screen over the cut-out bottom, using very fine silt-sand from an ancient stream-bed - with no observable affect at al, even after repeating the procedure several times. What came out was still obviously blood. Of course y'all are welcome to try it yourself, I won't claim it was an exhaustive test :') For instance you could try porous clay rather than sand, etc. - bet you it won't be succesful though. Bottom line is that many of the components of blood are so tiny that physical filtration just isn't the right approach. There are two possible methods that do work. The one used in extracting plasma from donated blood is centrifuging. This seperates components by specific gravity. It is thus probably possible to change the procedure at the end and get pure water - I am not sure of this, but it seems possible. The other is evaporation-condensation. You get pure water vapours when the water evaporates and leaves all the solids behind - regardless of how tiny they are. Of course, you want to capture all the vapour at this point, and cool it back down so it condenses. I don't see any indication in exodus that either of these procedures were used though.. Achilles "...we are not simply contending in order that my view or that of yours may prevail, but I presume we ought both of us to be fighting for the truth..." from Philebus, the Dialogues of Plato