(Ron) Definition of Inerrancy
Brian Dean bridean@worldnet.att.net
Tue, 1 Sep 1998 02:14:53 -0400 (00904648493, 19980901062332.NAID21955@109152022worldnet.att.net)
>> > RON
>> > Probability statistics do not CONTROL the outcome, merely predict
it.
>> > "Statistic" exist only in the mind. They have no actual existence.
>
>Statistics are a model which let us make predictions about outcomes,
>this is true. The statistical model I established in my above argument
>predicts a finite chance of "sinless life" as an outcome.
>
>If you address how my statistical model fails, then you destroy my
>argument that there is a finite chance of living a sinless life apart
>from Jesus. However, even if you do so, my claim is that the same
>sort of argument would show that god could have prevented copyist
>errors in the presence of free will. (Not, of course, that god was
>required to do so)
>
>Jeff:
>> > Perhaps (If the Christian bible is errant, maybe Islam is true; or
>> > deism, pantheism, who knows) we are, but as far as we know we're
>> > attacking _your_ understanding of God and the Bible.
>> >
>RON:
>> Why would errors of any sort affect the reality of God?
>
>The Christian bible paints a particular puicture of God. Other holy
>books and traditions paint different pictures. To the extent that a
>book or tradition
>is found to contain imperfections, the picture we have of god
>from it is necessarily less accurate.
>
>Furthermore, some put forth the following argument:
> 1. If God is exists and is benevolent, He would have produced
> an inerrant holy book.
> 2. Yet all the holy books we know of are errant
> 3. Therefore, God is not benevolent or God does not exist.
>
>If I had more time, I would find the paper on II "Biblical errancy
>disproves God" (or somesuch title) but I have other things to do at the
>moment, and a site search should be easy.
>
>Jeff
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>static cling."
>
RON
Just a few thoughts:
Six hundred years ago the notion that the earth was a globe was an
exceptional statement, foreign to most people's experience.
You could also, using your reasoning, say that if God was perfect then
everything He created should be perfect. Of course this also depends on
your interpretation of "perfect".
Another point I'm trying to make is that we don't automatically, even
if innocent, deserve to go to heaven. So how can you interpret not going
there or being born separate as punishment. If someone hit you would
that be God punishing you? Couldn't it just be someone exercising his
free will?
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