Alward's Confused

Joseph Crea Joseph.Crea@worldnet.att.net
Wed, 21 Oct 1998 07:31:01 +0000 (00908973061, 19981021073101.LOZZ24049@LOCALNAME) 

Hello, Joe!

At 02:46 AM 10/21/98 EDT, JAlw@aol.com wrote:

>Joe Alward:

>

>Will somebody help me get a handle on the debate that once was raging between

>Till and Bell?

>

>Till talking to Bell:

>

>"This is about the third time you have asserted that you have "comprehensively

>refuted" my argument that "ken" in Exodus 7 was used to convey the sense of

>"the same," so please show us exactly where you have refuted that. "

>

>The verse in question is given below:

>

>22 And the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments  and Pharaoh's

>heart was hardened, neither did he hearken unto them; as the LORD had said. 

>

>What I would like to know is why my Strongs source translates "did so with the

>enchantments" as "'asah lat".  I don't see "ken" anywhere except in the lice

>plague story, where "lice' is given as "ken", although Strongs also shows that

>it can mean "do the same thing". Do I need a better concordance?

>


CREA
    What you need here is a copy of the Masoretic text, not a concordance.
May I suggest acquiring a copy of John Joseph Owen's  __Analytical Key to
the Old Testament__?   It's a four volume set containing the text of the
Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensis (1976/77 edition), with the corresponding RSV
text provided interlinearly.   It also provides a grammatical analysis of
the Hebrew text with references to the BDB (__A Hebrew and English
Dictionary of the Old Testament__, Francis Brown, S.R. Driver, and Charles
A. Briggs) entry for each word, and whenever necessary, a cross-reference to
the pertinent section of __Gesenius'  Hebrew Grammar__.   It's published by
Baker Book House (out of Grand Rapids, Michigan, of course), and can be
obtained for about half the suggested retail from Christian Book
Distributors (1-978-977-5000).  Needless to say, it would BE A GOOD THING to
also pick up copies of BDB and __Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar__ (both from
Oxford U. Press).  All together they shouldn't set you back much more than
$200.00 and would be worth it at twice the price.

   And back to your original question, the Hebrew of Exodus 7:22, does
employ "ken" in the manner Farrell cites.  I have no idea what Strong's is
up to here. 




With Mettaa,

Joseph Crea
<Joseph.Crea@worldnet.att.net>