Errancy Galore
Charles charlesincal@earthlink.net
Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:28:28 -0700 (PDT) (00908965708, 199810210528.WAA26020@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net)
At 07:31 PM 10/20/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Charles:
>
> 1 Kings 7:23 He [Solomon] made the Sea of cast metal, circular in
> shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high.
> It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it.
>
> The Bible tells us that the circumference [30] = 3 x diameter [10].
> This is an error. The Bible is from a God who forgot how to do a
> simple hands-on experiment and come up with a short line. What
> else did this old man short us on?
>======================
>Joe Alward:
>
>If we assume (1) Solomon was not an all-capable being, and thus incapable of
>making anything perfectly circular, and (2) the author meant that the
>structure was a perfect circle, then bible error is evident.
>
>But, let us ask whether it is fair to assume that "circular" in the Bible MUST
>mean literal, perfect circularity. Is it bible error to use the word circular
>when there is even the slightest error from a perfect circle?
>
> ======================
> TILL
> Welcome to the world of Joe Alward, Charles. Now have fun responding to his
> inerrantistlike quibbles that show that no error existed in 1 Kings 7:23.
> Why not spend two or three weeks of your time doing nothing but responding
> to Alward
>===============================
>Joe Alward:
>
>I careful reading of my comments will show that I did not say "that no error
>existed in 1 Kings 7:23." On one level...
>=============
> from BACH
> Joe,
> If you want to believe in a "God" who rounds off, that's fine with me.
> This question doesn't bother most of my inerrantist friends and family. They
> don't see how this changes their blind faith in a risen Christ one way or
> the other. Most of them don't even want to discuss this issue, and I don't
> either!
>================
>Joe Alward:
>I know of no good evidence for the existence of any god, and therefore I don't
>believe in a god which rounds off. I do believe, however, that skeptics need
>to be careful in raising with inerrantists the issue of pi in 1 Kings. I
>agree with you that we shouldn't discuss this issue; that's one of the things
>I was implying when I responded to Charles.
> ======================
Charles sez...
One cannot find any errors in the bible whatsoever--unless one READS the
bible. Some scholarly tipes I know through the net have counted the errors,
JUST FOR FUN, and found 73,000 + of them.
The inerrancy argument is like saying you never wet the bed when you were a
kid... if denial soothes your feelings, go for it!
Otherwise, you are just in denial--seek therapy. Let's start a 12-step
group to help xtians "get over it."