Commentators of All Stripes

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>F.TILL

>> On another internet list, however, Turkel completely ridiculed

>> the notion that quoting sources gives support to one's views.  An

>> inerrantist member of my Errancy list founded a list of his own, which he

>> called CCBE (Christians Combating Biblical Errancy), for the avowed purpose

>> of forming a closed forum where biblical inerrantists could consider in

>> secrecy the arguments of Dennis McKinsey and me and then post collective

>> replies.  The list was closed to all who did not profess to be Christians,

>> and the owner of the list became very upset when some of his members

>> forwarded to me some materials that had been posted on CCBE.   It so

>> happened that one of the postings forwarded to me had been submitted by

>Turkel.



>M.BELL

>Interesting how you omit to inform people you cc this to that one of those

>members was Adnan, the moderator of Errancyn, who joined the originally

closed

>Christian list under false pretences, blatantly lied when providing

information

>requested of him on two seperate occassions on the validity of his

>subscription, and forwarded what you and he now claim was but one or two

posts

>(?) from the list. Of course all we have to validate this is his and your

>word!!!  I guess it is information like this the secular web won't be

posting?

>I wonder why?


ADNAN
This posting from Turkel Till is referring to wasn't forwarded by me. I
only forwarded four and five posts (before I was kicked), and Till will
confirm that. The fact is that Matt's own inerrantists friends got so
disgusted with CCBE that they started to forward postings to Till, as the
following email to Till shows:
________________

>X-Originating-IP: [209.146.55.130]

>From: "John Parkus" <johnparkus@hotmail.com>

>To: jftill@midwest.net

>Subject: Fwd: Notice of Unsubscription

>Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:27:46 PDT


Dear Mr. Till - I've been advised that one or more folks are being 
blamed for sending CCBE posts to you.  While I am probably not the only 
one, you may, if you wish, post this on your Errancy List including my 
name, since I have sent a good number of unsolicited posts to you.

Mr. Bell has unsubscribed me from his list as evidenced by the following 
email and I have no intention of re-joining.  For the record, I am a 
born again Christian but I am beginning to have doubts about the 
inerrancy of the Bible.  This has partially come about as a result of 
watching some of the clumsy responses on CCBE  When I attempted to 
discuss a point on the CCBE and referred to a remark by a fellow CCBE 
member as "boloney", I was admonished by Bell for being rude and was 
warned that I would probably have to apologize.  I don't remember the 
specifics.

At any rate, the List Moderator is far too controlling for me and I 
refuse out of hand to attempt to prove to Him that I am a Christian.  I 
never thought I'd see that day, after I was saved, that another 
Christian would make such a demand of me.  Perhaps he advocates a 
central born again Christian registry where documentation could be 
provided for us to carry to prove our allegiance.

I'm seriously considering asking to join your newsgroup but I'd like to 
give it more thought.  I do have questions about inerrancy and may just 
join to watch for awhile.

Since I don't have my own computer, I just learned of my "removal" 
today.  This computer, interestingly enough, belongs to another CCBE 
member who strongly disapproves of me forwarding posts to you, but who 
is in danger of being kicked off of the CCBE group because she also 
refuses to provide "salvation documentation" to Mr. Bell.

Incidentally, I was never asked if I was a Christian when i joined the 
group and never agreed to any allegiance.  I still have no qualms about 
forwarding the posts to you.

Regards,

John Parkus 



>From: "Matthew Bell" <mbkbell@aapi.co.uk>

>To: <johnparkus@hotmail.com>

>Subject: Notice of Unsubscription

>>Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:55:16 +0100



>M.BELL

You have been unsubscribed from the CCBE email list. The reason being 

>your

>failure to respond to  any of the two clarification posts sent to you. 

>If you

>should choose to provide that clarification or a valid reason for not 

>doing so

>you will be immediately put back on the list.

>

>Thanks

>List-Moderator.

>CCBE

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