Blood, Water and Magicians (1b)

Michael W. Fisher mwfisher@cts.com
Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:50:17 -0700 (00907192217, 001901bdec92$675efa60$9d495ecc@mwfisher.cts.com)


Michael Fisher, aka Elfish Chimera, San Diego, California

"If you work at that which is before you, following right reason seriously, vigorously, without allowing anything else to distract
you, but keeping your divine part pure, as if you were bound to give it back immediately; if you hold to this, expecting nothing,
but satisfied to live now according to nature, speaking heroic truth in every word which you utter, you will live happy. And there
is no man able to prevent this."
		                        --Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor and Stoic, from his MEDITATIONS, III, 12.---

Matthew Bell "On Behalf Of" CCBE sent:	Wednesday, September 30, 1998 8:17 AM


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CCBE, September 30, 1998 8:17 AM:
We have the Biblical record claiming the occurrence of both the initial act by
Moses/Aaron and that of the duplication by the magicians. Why ask us to
demonstrate the historical accuracy of one and not the other? Why are you
moving the goalposts of the original matter under discussion, i.e. whether
there is a matter of errancy in the recording of the events. In asking such of
us it appeared that, for the sake of argument you were taking an
if-these-events-occurred-then etc, approach. If you required validation of the
historical relaibility of the events then that should have been your first
question.
Except for the biblical record itself we know of no other unbiased validation
that the events occured. If you consider there is contrary evidence then please
present it, though we would request that this is withheld until the present
matter of the text is concluded.

Elf, 9/30/98 9:32 AM:
Um, evidence contrary to which assertion:

(1) the events are historically accurate

OR

(2) the events are not historically accurate?

A bit more care in writing would avoid such amphiboly.

And you've already been handed the evidence contrary to the first assertion. The "elephant in the living room" type scenario
regarding the collapse of Egyptian civilization that the plague of blood, all by itself, would have been sufficient to cause (before
all the livestock was killed - three times) - yet which is nowhere else recorded, and has left no physical traces. [Core samples
from river deltas, ocean and lake bottoms can provide data for as far back as 10,000 years on floods, fires, plant life and a bunch
of other data. Where's the layer corresponding to the worst river pollution disaster ever in recorded history? It ought to stick out
like a sore thumb. Maybe it's just that no one's taken any core samples of the Nile delta or nearby Mediterranean Sea. Sure. Maybe
you can get one of the Christian "research" organizations to fund the study.]

Ciao!!

Michael Fisher, aka Elfish Chimera, San Diego, California

"If you work at that which is before you, following right reason seriously, vigorously, without allowing anything else to distract
you, but keeping your divine part pure, as if you were bound to give it back immediately; if you hold to this, expecting nothing,
but satisfied to live now according to nature, speaking heroic truth in every word which you utter, you will live happy. And there
is no man able to prevent this."
		                        --Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor and Stoic, from his MEDITATIONS, III, 12.---