*Alward: Day of Preparation

Ray & Sandy Briggs brite1@inetworld.net
Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:25:36 -0800 (00911546736, 3654C507.5298@inetworld.net)


BLACKFOOT (I think) wrote:

> >>According to Matthew and the others, Jesus died on the
> >>"ninth hour" of Preparation-Day of the week of Passover.
> >>It is well-established that the word, Paraskeuen (from
> >>the Greek for "preparation") was commonly used in the
> >>first century and thereafter as a name meaning,
> >>"Day-before-weekly-sabbath". It required no article,
> >>and is the same as saying "Friday".
> >
> >TILL:
> >If this is so, I would be very interested in seeing supporting
>documentation.
> >
> >Farrell Till
> >Skepticism, Inc.
> >jftill@midwest.net
> >
> Ed
>
> One would be the Liddell-Scott-Jones Lexicon of Classical Greek, which
> reads in its third definition of the word:
>
> III. among the Jews, the day of Preparation, before the sabbath of the
> Passover, v.Marc.15.42, Ev.Jo.19.14,au=Ev.Jo. 19.31=lr, etc. ; hêmera
> paraskeuês Ev.Luc.23.54.
>
> et
>===============
>Joe Alward:
>
>Currently unresolved--perhaps only in my mind--is the question of whether "a
>day of preparation" can precede a "sabbath" which is not the weekly sabbath.
>I say "unresolved", because I'm not sure how the discussion between Mooney
and
>Kluepfel ended--if it did. They were alluding to "sabbaths" on Thursday and
>Wednesday. Can anyone add more information?
>
>Also, the definition above only shows that that the day (Friday) before the
>weekly sabbath (Saturday) was called the "day of preparation"
(paraskeuen). I
>would like to see evidence that "paraskeuen" couldn't be used for other days.
>
Ed The fact that it isn't used for such is pretty good evidence. I checked the LSJ which contains the comprehensive classical as well as Biblical concordances and can't find it sued for any other day anywhere. Nor do I find any definition of Sabbath except for the last day of the week. It looks like Mooney and Kluepfel are grinding some sectarian axes. Ray: Do you have a more positive statement that a weekday cannot be considered a sabbath? Every inerrantists I have ever debated on this subject claims that the 1st day of Passover is also a "sabbath", regardless of what day of the week it is. They say it as if everybody knows it. Although I should know better, I just assumed I was just poorly informed and it was so. If Passover started on Thursday (that year) and can be called a sabbath, of course it can be used to avoid the contradiction between the prediction of 3 days and 3 nights and the 2 nights and 1 day. If Jesus were buried on Wednesday evening, he would have been buried for Wed, Thur, and Fri night and all day Thur, Fri, and Sat. They have him up and about Sat evening, even though nobody noted it until Sunday morning. Maybe he was visiting some folks in hell during the night. There are some other things wrong with this scenario. One of them being that if the women were going to anoint the body it makes no sense that they would have waited until Sunday to do it, when they would have expected the body to "stinkith". They would certainly have done it on Friday. Of course, if only Saturday can be called the sabbath, that is a much more serious problem with the "harmonization". Ray