*Alward: The sabbaths

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In a message dated 11/9/98 11:03:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ronie@InfoAve.Net writes:
DAVE MOONEY
<<   As for historical evidence of "a day of Preparation" for Wednesday, there
 isn't any. There are charts available that show Passover dates from 27-33 AD
and
 none have shown a Thursday passover. There are three years in that period in
 which Passover fell on Friday (including 33 AD). These dates are based on
 scientific data as scientists know when the full moon would have occurred
over
 Jerusalem. The only flaw in these tables is the Jews were not as
scientifically
 precise. The beginning of the new month was dependent on the sighting of the
new
 moon by a trained observer. He could be off by one day if the weather
conditions
 were not exactly right. So if he was late by one day (the limit by law) the
 moon, although it looked full on Nisan 14, would have actually been full on
 Nisan 13.  The charts provided by fundamentalist sources assume an accurracy
in
 spotting the new moon. If the observer was accurate in the years 27, 30, 33
AD,
 then Nisan 14 was indeed the full moon and that would be a Friday passover,
not
 a Thursday passover. I am looking into this further and hope to have some
 documentation on this in a few weeks. Anyone on this list who has any
 information on this please send it as I will greatly appreciate it. I no
longer
 have the name of my sources at hand but when I get them I will post them.
Anyone
 who can beat me to the punch will have my thanks.
     And Joe, the answer is NO. The inerrnatists cannot claim a win, even if
the
 Passover fell on Thursday because they will always have to account for those
 troublesome verses that say Jesus would be killed and rise on the *third*
day.
 It cannot fit. Anyhow, don't post the above info on your website as I am
 awaiting some confirmation from a reputable organization on the new moon
 reckoning. All I have are my notes which were made in a library years ago and
I
 was to dumb to include sources. Those should be arriving in a few weeks.
 If you'd like, file this info and when I receive my confirmation I will post
it.
    Take care all,
 Dave Mooney
   >>
Charlie
Calculations of Hebrew calendar dates using the current algorithm will be
wrong for years in the time frame we are talking about, so the best thing to
do is base one's estimate on the full moons.  But remember the month began
with a new moon, and there need not be always the same number of days between
new and full moon.  If we assume however that the 14th of Nisan is the day of
the full moon as well as the day of preparation, then that was on a Wednesday
in AD 27.  As you mention, we might be off by a day or so.  Starting with AD
27 the calculated day of full moon pertaining to passover was 27 W, 28 M, 29
Su, 30 F, 31 Tu, 32 M, and 33 F.  In fact, though, as mentioned, the months
began with a new moon (or rather, the day after astronomical new moon, so one
might expect Nissan 14 to be the same day of the week as the preceding new
moon (taking that as being "Nissan 0" so to speak, or rather the day before
Nissan 1). The relevant new moons were on 27 W, 28 M, 29 Sa, 30 W, 31 M, 32
Su, 33 Th.  Thus on two occasions, AD 27 and AD 30, we point to a Wednesday
for the day of preparation, Nisan 14.  These were calculated using Jean Meeus'
Astronomical Algorithms using a time zone 3 hours east of Greenwich and days
beginning and ending at midnight.

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