Jesus' Genealogies (Till please check)

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HELEN
Joe, in his hell bent crusade to misrepresent all errant positions, has been
arguing that Luke genealogy could not be Mary's because Mary was a daughter
of Arron. This is not a valid argument. (see my post Mary's genealogy for an
explanation of this.)

However, there are some very serious problems with these genealogies and
they
in fact prove that Jesus could not be the Messiah. For the Messiah is a
prophesied future king of the David lineage, but the OT makes very clear
that
a child of Jesus' supposed heritage could not be this prophesied king. Till
makes these argument better than me, but since he skips stuff by Joe I not
sure he will see this thread. So I will attempt the argument:

1)Matthew's genealogy has Jesus descending from King Jechoniah (Jehoiachin
or
Coniah) who is cursed in Jeremiah 22:30, "Thus said the Lord: Record this
man
as childless, a man who shall not succeed in his days; for none of his
offspring shall succeed in sitting on the throne of David again in Judah."

2)Luke has Jesus descend from David through Nathan (Solomon's brother), but
one of the classic prophecies of the Messiah (I Chronicles 22:10) says that
the Messiah will descend from Solomon as well as from Solomon's father
David.

Therefore, the genealogies that occur in the NT prove that Jesus can not be
the Messiah supposedly predicted in the OT.

I hope I got this right, because I know that Till makes the argument better,

EDWARDS
I've seen an amusing approach to this problem; I learned it from a Jewish
gentleman, who goes by the handle of Pep.  It goes like this ...

Pep:  Was Jesus the messiah?
Biblicist:  Amen, brother.
Pep:  Was Jesus the son of god?
Biblicist:  You got that stuff right.
Pep:  From which tribe is the messiah to come?
Biblicist:  Too easy - the tribe of Judah.
Pep:  So, Jesus was the messiah, the son of god, descended from the tribe of
Judah?
Biblicist:  You're catching on.
Pep:  You're sure about that?
Biblicist:  I'm going to type this slowly for you:  Yes.
Pep:  Of which tribe is god?
Biblicist:  Duh ... I just forgot ... today's the day for me to change the
vacuum cleaner bag.  Gotta go.

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