The Value of Pi (to Kornform)

Bryce Anderson bryce_anderson@yahoo.com
Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:27:02 -0800 (PST) (00909977222, 19981101212702.27984.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com)


JOE 

> I read it n times. I have said before: the words "about" or
"approximately"
> show inexactness, and the god of which we speak cannot be inexact;
he has the
> infinite ability to find the way to convey to us exact information
in an
> infinitely efficient way.
BRYCE <silly quibble>I would argue with your use of the phrase "infinitely efficient." If efficiency means the ability to do a maximum of work with a minimum of progress, then infinite efficiency means the ability to do everything with nothing. While this may indeed reflect the conception of the Christian God, it would be logically impossible for God to do so in a written language, unless all the knowledge in the universe can be held on a blank sheet of paper.</silly quibble> Sorry, but I just can't resist jumping all over the slightest linguistical slip up. So, point taken, God should be able to convey a maximum of relevant information with a minimum of wordage. I agree that this makes logical sense. However, it would still be impossible for God to give a perfectly exact shape for the sea in the space of a paragraph. Human language wouldn't allow for it (or possibly information theory itself). Achilles, myself, and others continue to argue that using the word "about" (or some other, similar term) would have led to a passage that couldn't be argued with. You appear to believe that, if this God was in complete control of the human author, and choosing every word written, he would necessarily have to give a perfectly exact description of the shape of the sea, or leave the description out entirely. I think it could be argued that even an omnipotent God could, using Hebrew or Engish language, give an exact description of such a tub in the space of a paragraph. Therefore, God would be bound by a "logistical impossibility" to round off somewhere and use the word "about."* Using the word "about" would also end the question of how much exactness was required. Though an exact description of the sea isn't required for the perfect communication of "God's message", freedom from any true error (as well as the appearance of error, where such is possible) is necessary for the success of the inerrancy hypothesis. *On the other hand, it is possible that, if the sea were a very idealized shape, that mathematical equations could provide a perfect description in a very short space, but this leads to a problem of conveyance, since I haven't studied my geometry in years. == Bryce Anderson http://members.tripod.com/~Idafab/index.html Eagles can soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. Isn't Disney World a people trap run by a mouse? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com