(Ron) Panther, Father of Jesus
Brian Dean bridean@worldnet.att.net
Mon, 4 May 1998 18:54:08 -0400 (00894344048, 19980504224249.AAA24516@briandea)
RON
Yes, I have read parts of the Talmud, even those stories about Jesus
animating a corpse and making it dance around. Do you accept this
story? The compilers of the Talmud had an axe to grind with the
Christians who were their very effective competitors. Even Jews do
not accept the Talmud as "Scripture".
HELEN:
What is your source that that Talmud, in fact, says this? I believe that
most of these kind of stories come from Jewish books other than the
Talmud but as old, and are about a person named Yeishu ben Pandeira,
aka Yeishu ha-Nostri, who was stoned to death around 100 B.C. There
are medieval Jewish stories that accuse Jesus of learning the magical
sacred name of god and using it to do all kinds of bad things, but this is
pretty obviously Jewish responses to Christian abuse in the middle ages
and are clearly dated after the closing of both of the Talmuds. I think
some of these stories are in commentaries on the Talmud. I just
wondering are the "Talmud" quotes you claim to have read from Christian
sources? Do they list in which Tractate these stories occurred? I have
seen so many bogus Talmud quotes, that I am coming to suspect all of
them.
RON
You may be right about the spurious Talmud quotes. The stories I read
were in a separate old book in a library. I haven't read the whole
Talmud, but I have read parts of it(in english tarnslation) and I don't
recall reading these stories.