(Ron) Panther, Father of Jesus was: (Ron) Till's Fourth Volley(D.JONES)
Brian Dean bridean@worldnet.att.net
Sat, 2 May 1998 10:08:31 -0400 (00894139711, 19980502135710.AAA12358@briandea)
>>RON
>>Yes I am going to deny the "Jewish" identification of Jesus' father.
>>You've been reading too many tabloids in the check-out line.
TRICKY DICK
>FALLACY OF AD HOMINEM, proving this person
>is not a logical thinker.
>
>GROSS IGNORANCE OF CHRISTOLOGY.
>
>"In the Talmud, a compendium of Jewish law,
> lore, and commentary, only a few statements
> of the rabbis (Jewish religious teachers) of
> the 1st and 2nd centuries come into consideration.
> Containing mostly polemics or Jewish apologetics,
> they reveal an acquaintance with the Christian
> tradition but include several divergent legendary
> motifs as well. The picture of Jesus offered in
> these writings may be summarized as follows: born
> the (according to some interpretations, illegitimate)
> son of a man called Panther, Jesus (Hebrew: Yeshu)
> worked magic, ridiculed the wise, seduced and stirred
> up the people, gathered five disciples about him, and
> was hanged (crucified) on the eve of the Passover."
> _Jesus of Nazareth_
> Guenther Bornkamm (died 1990),
> Professor of New Testament Studies (1949-71),
> Rupert Charles University of Heidelberg.
>
>Not tabloids in the check-out line. The Jewish Talmud
>of the 1st century says that the father of Jesus, the
>magic worker with five disciples, was the Roman soldier
>Panther. Anyone the least bit familiar with the real
>historical Jesus and the fundamentals of Christology
>knows this. So much for your denial. So much for the
>pretensions to knowledge of all the fools on this list.
>None of you have any more than random bits and pieces
>out of context you don't understand.
>
>You all have read the Talmud? The other side of the
>story? Why the Jews wanted Jesus dead? Have you checked
>out the material available at your local synagogue?
>Have you ever asked a rabbi who Jesus' father was? The
>Jews know more about Jesus than you do.
>
>The Bible contains the infallible truth, but you must
>first know what you're looking for, and none of you
>have any idea of how to go about finding the truth
>or what it is after you do find it.
>
>"'I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God,
> who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."
> Revelation 1:8
>
>Note the English word "Almighty" instead of the Latin
>word "Omnipotent". Note you're all fools.
>
>Dick Jones
>Philosopher
>http://www.iland.net/~box191/phil2.htm
>
>"Reading is sometimes an ingenious device for avoiding
> thought."
> --Sir Arthur Helps (1813-1875)
>
>
RON
Yes, I have read parts of the Talmud, even those stories about Jesus
animating a corpse and making it dance around. Do you accept this story?
The compilers of the Talmud had an axe to grind with the Christians who
were their very effective competitors. Even Jews do not accept the
Talmud as "Scripture".
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