Fw: Ge.1(first, second, third, fourth day, etc)

Brian Dean bridean@worldnet.att.net
Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:16:31 -0500 (00889690591, 19980312020901.AAA10092@briandea)


RON
3. "Day" has also been translated as age. As the scriptures say with God 
"a thousand years, nay a thousand thousand ages, are but as a day that is 
past" (Psalm XC, 4).  

DAVE G.
So are we to assume then that any "day" mentioned in the creation story
equals "a thousand years, nay a thousand thousand ages." If that is the
case, it took a thousand thousand ages to create light, another thousand
thousand ages to separate the waters for the firmament, another thousand
thousand ages to create dry land, etc, etc..

In chaper two, GEN 2:2 God rested a thousand thousand ages, 2:3 God
blessed the 7th thousand thousand ages, 2:17 But of the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the
"thousand thousand ages" that thou eastest thereof thou shalt surely
die.

Clearly the author of Genesis intended for a "day" to mean one 24 hr
period. Sounds like the another attempt to justify belief in Hebrew
(borrowed/plagiarized) mythology of the era.

MCGILL(3/8)
According to Josh McDowell and Don Stewart in their book "Answers To 
Tough Questions Skeptics ask about the Christian Faith", they 
say"Regarding the meaning of "yom"[the Hebrew word for day in Genesis 1], 
those who oppose the age-day theory point out that when "yom" is used 
with a specific number, in this case six days, it always means a 24-hour 
day. Examples of this would be the 40 days Moses was on Mt. Sinai and the 
three days Jonah was inside the great fish. Additional evidence is that 
Exodus 20:11 refers to the six days of creation apparently as 24-hour 
days. More than 700 times in the Old Testament, the plural of "yom" is 
used and always has 24-hour days in view. The burden of proof is on those 
who argue that the word "yom" cannot be understood in its plain and 
natural sense. Many who oppose the age-day theory hold to a solar day and 
recent creation view, along with a universal flood and apparent age 
theory to explain the fossil and geological evidence. The apparent age 
theory is the theory that God created everything at full maturity, with 
the appearance of having gone through the normal development stages. 
Examples of this would be Adam and Eve, created fully grown, and the wine 
Jesus created in Cana, fully fermented in an instant of time. This would 
explain the earth's appearance of millions of years of age, while in 
reality it was only recently created (6-20 thousand years ago). As 
illustrated in this rebuttal to the age-day view, as well as other 
evidence, there is no compelling reason to abandon the solar day and 
recent creation view." 

My answer to the above about a recent creation is what I have said before:

There is no evidence that the laws of 
physics have changed. The speed of light is a universal constant. Light 
is represented by c in the equation E=mc2, c meaning the constant speed 
of Light. In the gigantic conceptions of Einstein, the velocity of 
light-186,286 miles per second-dominates the whole Theory of Relativity. 
He proved mathematically that the velocity of light is the only constant 
of a universe in flux. On the "absolute" of light velocity depend all 
human standards of time and space, they derive their conditional 
measurement-validities only in reference to the yardstick of light 
velocity. Distances of stars from earth can be measured by using a 
telescope, trigonometry, parallax, and apparent brightness and intrinsic 
brightness of the star. The globular star cluster in Hercules is 33,000 light 
years away. Our Milky Way Galaxy just one of billions is 100,000 light years 
across. Galaxy M31 is 2.25 million light years away. The galaxy Cygnus 
A(3C405) is about 1 billion light years from earth. The Quasar 3C273 is 3 
billion light years away, the CLOSEST one known.

None of the known measured distances to stars can be fit into the cramped 
space of a 6,000 or 20,000 year creation history, and the Bible says the 
earth was created BEFORE the stars, another absurdity.

Even if the stars were created fully developed according to the apparent 
age theory, light would still take millions or billions of years to reach 
the earth from the farthest stars, this in itself disproves the 24-hour 
"yom" day(s) of Genesis 1 and the age of the Universe according to the 
Bible.

RON
 As I believe I suggested it makes no difference to me whether God 
created the universe in 24 hour increments or not. God is the Master of 
time. He controls it and exists also outside of it. He could have 
speeded it up if He wished. It is irrelevent to the fact that He did it. 
Frankly, the creation is totally beyond our present conception and 
understanding. The book of Genesis is simply an attempt to communicate 
eternal truths in human finite language and terms of a particular point 
in history. You simply cannot rule out the human element and authorship 
of Scripture which coexists with the revelation of God. He did not 
employ automatons to write the Scriptures. He spoke through people who 
had a particular paradigm of reality. We cannot ignore this facet when 
interpreting Scripture.