Fw: Ge.1(first, second, third, fourth day, etc)
Brian Dean bridean@worldnet.att.net
Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:16:31 -0500 (00889690591, 19980312020901.AAA10092@briandea)
RON
3. "Day" has also been translated as age. As the scriptures say with God
"a thousand years, nay a thousand thousand ages, are but as a day that is
past" (Psalm XC, 4).
DAVE G.
So are we to assume then that any "day" mentioned in the creation story
equals "a thousand years, nay a thousand thousand ages." If that is the
case, it took a thousand thousand ages to create light, another thousand
thousand ages to separate the waters for the firmament, another thousand
thousand ages to create dry land, etc, etc..
In chaper two, GEN 2:2 God rested a thousand thousand ages, 2:3 God
blessed the 7th thousand thousand ages, 2:17 But of the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the
"thousand thousand ages" that thou eastest thereof thou shalt surely
die.
Clearly the author of Genesis intended for a "day" to mean one 24 hr
period. Sounds like the another attempt to justify belief in Hebrew
(borrowed/plagiarized) mythology of the era.
MCGILL(3/8)
According to Josh McDowell and Don Stewart in their book "Answers To
Tough Questions Skeptics ask about the Christian Faith", they
say"Regarding the meaning of "yom"[the Hebrew word for day in Genesis 1],
those who oppose the age-day theory point out that when "yom" is used
with a specific number, in this case six days, it always means a 24-hour
day. Examples of this would be the 40 days Moses was on Mt. Sinai and the
three days Jonah was inside the great fish. Additional evidence is that
Exodus 20:11 refers to the six days of creation apparently as 24-hour
days. More than 700 times in the Old Testament, the plural of "yom" is
used and always has 24-hour days in view. The burden of proof is on those
who argue that the word "yom" cannot be understood in its plain and
natural sense. Many who oppose the age-day theory hold to a solar day and
recent creation view, along with a universal flood and apparent age
theory to explain the fossil and geological evidence. The apparent age
theory is the theory that God created everything at full maturity, with
the appearance of having gone through the normal development stages.
Examples of this would be Adam and Eve, created fully grown, and the wine
Jesus created in Cana, fully fermented in an instant of time. This would
explain the earth's appearance of millions of years of age, while in
reality it was only recently created (6-20 thousand years ago). As
illustrated in this rebuttal to the age-day view, as well as other
evidence, there is no compelling reason to abandon the solar day and
recent creation view."
My answer to the above about a recent creation is what I have said before:
There is no evidence that the laws of
physics have changed. The speed of light is a universal constant. Light
is represented by c in the equation E=mc2, c meaning the constant speed
of Light. In the gigantic conceptions of Einstein, the velocity of
light-186,286 miles per second-dominates the whole Theory of Relativity.
He proved mathematically that the velocity of light is the only constant
of a universe in flux. On the "absolute" of light velocity depend all
human standards of time and space, they derive their conditional
measurement-validities only in reference to the yardstick of light
velocity. Distances of stars from earth can be measured by using a
telescope, trigonometry, parallax, and apparent brightness and intrinsic
brightness of the star. The globular star cluster in Hercules is 33,000 light
years away. Our Milky Way Galaxy just one of billions is 100,000 light years
across. Galaxy M31 is 2.25 million light years away. The galaxy Cygnus
A(3C405) is about 1 billion light years from earth. The Quasar 3C273 is 3
billion light years away, the CLOSEST one known.
None of the known measured distances to stars can be fit into the cramped
space of a 6,000 or 20,000 year creation history, and the Bible says the
earth was created BEFORE the stars, another absurdity.
Even if the stars were created fully developed according to the apparent
age theory, light would still take millions or billions of years to reach
the earth from the farthest stars, this in itself disproves the 24-hour
"yom" day(s) of Genesis 1 and the age of the Universe according to the
Bible.
RON
As I believe I suggested it makes no difference to me whether God
created the universe in 24 hour increments or not. God is the Master of
time. He controls it and exists also outside of it. He could have
speeded it up if He wished. It is irrelevent to the fact that He did it.
Frankly, the creation is totally beyond our present conception and
understanding. The book of Genesis is simply an attempt to communicate
eternal truths in human finite language and terms of a particular point
in history. You simply cannot rule out the human element and authorship
of Scripture which coexists with the revelation of God. He did not
employ automatons to write the Scriptures. He spoke through people who
had a particular paradigm of reality. We cannot ignore this facet when
interpreting Scripture.