[Seekers] Punishment
Ward Fenley kingdom@ksinc.net
Tue, 03 Mar 1998 21:52:26 -0600 (00889005146, 34FCCFFA.4CCBC128@ksinc.net)
Ward wrote:
Farrell Till wrote:
>
> At 11:39 PM 3/1/98 -0600, Ward Fenley wrote:
>
> TILL
> >> I also issue a challenge to Ward to tell us how the Bible can be used to
> >> determine absolute morality, since the Bible is just a written document.
> >
> >
> FENLEY
> >Again, I will do this provided you answer my questions. Remember, I am
> >not trying to prove to YOU that morality originated in the Bible. My
> >post was to Linda who, up until recently professed statements like:
> >
> >"Many of you here have eaten from the Tree of Knowledge. You are full
> >and satisfied that you know it all. You, having all truth, will never
> >learn anything more. There are others who still hunger and thirst for
> >the Word of God."
> >
> >I was approaching her from this vantage point.
> >
> >Of course I cannot prove that morality originated in the BIBLE (though I
> >believe it did). I simply want those on this list to show me and prove
> >to me why they do or do not believe in moral absolutes.
> >
>
> TILL
> I'm not at all sure what you are trying to argue. Please explain. Perhaps
> that could best be done if you would state your belief in the form of a
> debating proposition, such as, "Absolute morality exists and can be
> determined only by reading the Bible."
>
Because that is my proposition only when debating those who believe
PARTS of the Bible as the word of God. This is not my method when
debating those who flatly deny that the Bible is the word.
I need answers from you first:
ONe) do you believe in absolutes or not?
If so, trace them back to their origin and prove that they originated in
man.
If not,
1) Do you believe in any absolutes?
2) Do you believe any thing is right or wrong? Yes, it is as elementary
as it sounds? If yes, then again, prove its origin and that it
originated in man. If no, then I would ask you: Do you really believe
that?
In heaven,
Ward
> Farrell Till
> Skepticism, Inc.
> jftill@midwest.net
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the glorious majesty of his kingdom. {13} Thy kingdom is an everlasting
kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations.