[Seekers] Punishment

Linda inknews@acsnet.com
Mon, 02 Mar 1998 22:15:56 (00888898556, 3.0.1.16.19980302221556.31879c16@acsnet.com) 

At 08:53 AM 3/2/98 -0800, Farrell Till wrote:

>At 11:39 PM 3/1/98 -0600, Ward Fenley wrote:

>

>TILL

>>> I also issue a challenge to Ward to tell us how the Bible can be used to

>>> determine absolute morality, since the Bible is just a written document. 

>>

>>

>FENLEY

>>Again, I will do this provided you answer my questions. Remember, I am

>>not trying to prove to YOU that morality originated in the Bible. My

>>post was to Linda who, up until recently professed statements like:

>>

>>"Many of you here have eaten from the Tree of Knowledge. You are full

>>and satisfied that you know it all. You, having all truth, will never

>>learn anything more. There are others who still hunger and thirst for

>>the Word of God."

>>

>>I was approaching her from this vantage point. 

>>

>>Of course I cannot prove that morality originated in the BIBLE (though I

>>believe it did). I simply want those on this list to show me and prove

>>to me why they do or do not believe in moral absolutes.

>>

>

>TILL

>I'm not at all sure what you are trying to argue.  Please explain.  Perhaps

>that could best be done if you would state your belief in the form of a

>debating proposition, such as, "Absolute morality exists and can be

>determined only by reading the Bible."



LINDA
The reason you don't understand is because Ward is taking statments out of
context and patching in his supposed arguments -  I never had any such
converation with Ward about the Bible...  He's made this nonsensical for a
reason...  by making it so... he gets out of answering your questions.

BTW... 
What about the "law" of cause and effect... If you want "eternal" (age
long) happiness, you don't "come over the hill " and kill people --- why?
because someone might retaliate and cause you the same fate.  If you don't
want people to steal from you, you don't deal from them... doesn't that
make sense?  These "laws" of "order" or common sense predate the Bible -
they are as old as the law of gravity or the laws of intertia.  Morality is
simply knowing how our actions will affect our future happiness.  (this is
not an "athiest" opinion... but mine only - so If Ward want's to "hunt me
down" for my ideas... he knows where to find me!)  ":-D