prophecies of Jesus [Fwd: Jesus & Holy, Holy, Holy]

Helen Willis hhiwater@BRIGHT.NET
Thu, 26 Feb 1998 20:32:05 -0800 (00888575525, 34F641C4.4FEE@bright.net) 

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I am just now looking at my e-mail for the last week. Gary wrote this to
me personally, but I would much rather deal with it on the list. I will
attempt to get a reply out this weekend, but I have finals next week and
work tommorow so I don't know if I will give half the answer I should. I
would very much appreciate the help from the rest of you folks.
Thanks,
Helen

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From: "Gary Wm Kuehl" <kuehl@atl.mindspring.com>
To: "Helen Willis" <hhiwater@bright.net>
Subject: Jesus & Holy, Holy, Holy
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:41:37 -0500
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Helen,

Thank you for your e-mail.  I appreciate your continued interest to discuss
these things.

It is not problems if you wish to keep the folks at "errancy" informed, or
copied, on any of our e-mails, however I leave that to your discretion.


>HELEN:

>I'm going to send a cc of this to errancy, so if you get some mail from

>there don't be suprised. Please list the Biblical verses of the

>prophecies you believe that Jesus fulfilled? Please list the verses that

>explain the trinity? Are either of these questions harder or ruder than

>the questions than you ask a Mormon or JW? How would you react to them

>telling you that you have been deceived? Wouldn't you simply ask them

>again to answer the questions? These should be easy to answer. Please

>try.

>Helen

>hhiwater@bright.net


KUEHL:
You first ask about Scripture about Jesus and prophecies He fulfilled.
Really, there are so many, it's almost "take your pick."  Maybe if you would
consider the Psalm of the Cross, Psalm 22, to start.  See what you think
about it.

On your question about the Trinity, the word "trinity" is only shorthand for
how God is described in Scripture.  And, it was coined, if you will, as a
thing comparable to how we might use an acronym to remember a technical term
or an organization name.  You ask about those verses which explain the
Trinity, there are some to consider, but also it is as if one would read the
biography of an individual and then some one ask which verses explain that
individual's character.  There of course are many and to get the complete
view, one reads the whole thing.  Here we speak about understanding the
character of God.

You know maybe the verses which say "Holy, Holy, Holy," and how believers
are to baptize. Mt 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the
nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the
Holy Spirit."  Also, remember how God is the Only God and how Isaiah 9:6
foretells Christ's birth and Who He is. Isa 9:6 ....Mighty God, Everlasting
Father, Prince of Peace.  Still the LORD, YAHWEH, says, Isa 45:21 .....Who
has
declared this from ancient time? ....Have not I, the LORD? And there is no
other God besides Me, A just God and a Savior; There is none besides Me.
How do these fit together?  Is there God that is different than the Savior?
Deut 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one!  And, Jesus
repeated this at Mk 12:29 when asked," What is the _first_ commandment of
all."

The whole gospel of John is a beautiful testimony to the Oneness of God in
the Word, the Father and the Holy Spirit.  This oneness is wonderful as it
is explained, however also a point of departure over people really
understanding this can be seen in heresies over the years, people thinking
them separate, people not hearing Jesus' answer at Mk 12:29 and the other
texts making this so.  It has been explained in Scripture as a great
"mystery of Godliness" at Col 2:2, 1Tim 3:16 and Rv 10:7.  And, so it is,
revealed in Christ.  Finally, the book of Hebrews is beautiful to tie all
this together in explaining how important this is in the life of a believer.

I trust this message finds you well, I am,

Gary Kuehl




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