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Starting: Sun Apr 26 00:15:07 1998
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- Creation of the solar system & galaxies(to Dick Jones) J. Michael McGill
- David's only sin? J. Michael McGill
- Dick's insults (was re: rock) J. Michael McGill
- Are we what we seem to be(philosophy) J. Michael McGill
- A Final Reply to Jones James M. Breithaupt
- Truth and Fact Eric Gillespie, Jr.
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? Brian Dean
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? April
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? Joseph Crea
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? Brian Dean
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? Brian Dean
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? Brian Dean
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? April Dorsey-Tyler
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? Steve Kolb
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? Brian Dean
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? Sara and/or John Hamilton
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? Brian Dean
- (Ron) How about a Little Proof, Ron? Brian Dean
- (Ron) Who Is In Heaven? (was Re: Ralph) Brian Dean
- (Ron) Till's Fourth Volley (D.JONES) Brian Dean
- Archaeological Work in the Sinai Brian Dean
- Terry, where's your "Bible etc. Brian Dean
- The LXX (Hebrews 10:5) (SteveCR) Matthew Bell
- Dick's insults (Claire take note) Brian Dean
- Good coming out of evil. Brian Dean
- The Earth Shall Not Be Moved Brian Dean
- The LXX (The evidence) (SteveCR) Matthew Bell
- Definitions of the word Truth SJane Weisiger
- Larry SJane Weisiger
- Duty (to Ed Tyler) David Court
- Does God repent or change his mind? (to Farrell) David Court
- Dave's Idea of "Absolute Truth" (to Farrell) David Court
- Farrell's Ridiculous Methods (to Farrell) David Court
- Farrell's Evidence (to Farrell) David Court
- Baker & Alward (to Farrell) David Court
- An honest Christian... Jeff
- LXX and perverse theories Steven Carr
- Dick's insults (was re: rock) D. T. Billings
- Rick, please check the filter in your mind (to claire, long) SJane Weisiger
- Fallback Jesus Steven Carr
- Hebrews and the resiliant LXX Steve Carson-Rowland
- Logistics of Truth Castonguay, Gregory
- Fwd: Re: Terry, where's your "Bible etc. Brian Dean
- Dick's insults (was re: rock) James M. Breithaupt
- The original church D. T. Billings
- LXX (Hebrews 11:21)(SteveCR/F.Till) Matthew Bell
- LXX (Hebrews 1:6) (F.Till) Matthew Bell
- Creation of the solar system & galaxies(to Jeff Epler) J. Michael McGill
- The LXX (The evidence) (SteveCR/F.Till) Matthew Bell
- Hebrews and the resiliant LXX (F.Till) Matthew Bell
- (Ron) Borgia to Ron Helen Willis
- Dick's insults (was re: rock) James M. Breithaupt
- on-line LXX Greg, Nancy, and James Todd
- Free Issue on SABBATH from Christian Magazine! Helen Willis
- The LXX (Hebrews 10:5) (Matt Bell) Helen Willis
- Luke/Acts & Homer (Acts 20:7-12) Jason Filley
- The morality of the book of Joshua Helen Willis
- We are all apart of the Satanic Organization, a Satanic Organizat
ion... Castonguay, Gregory
- 'No such thing as *the* LXX' (Steve Carr) Matthew Bell
- Paul & the Septuagint(F.Till) Matthew Bell
- Paul Quoted Isaiah from the Septuagint Matthew Bell
- Semantics, Logic & philosophy J. Michael McGill
- LXX (Hebrews 11:21)(H.Willis) Matthew Bell
- Death of Judas was Re: O.K. Ian Scott, do it any way you can Helen Willis
- govener of Arkansas Terry
- Why they do it, Matt? Matthew Bell
- Semantics, Logic & Philosophy J. Michael McGill
- creative day Terry
- Is BREITHAUPT what he seems to be? James M. Breithaupt
- Knowledge of Viagra James M. Breithaupt
- LXX (Hebrews 1:6) Origen produces corrupt KJV Steven Carr
- Mrs. Yahweh Helen Willis
- dave Terry
- Free Issue on SABBATH from Christian Magazine! Rick Gaudreau
- Fwd: govener of Arkansas SJane Weisiger
- Fwd: Knowledge of Viagra SJane Weisiger
- Fwd: Re: Free Issue on SABBATH from Christian Magazine! SJane Weisiger
- Fwd: RE: Free Issue on SABBATH from Christian Magazine! SJane Weisiger
- Mrs. Yahweh Helen Willis
- Dave Larry D. Enger
- Why can't you hear? Rick Gaudreau
- God's Morse Code box191@iland.net
- Why can't you hear? John Hamilton
- (Ron) Dick and the original church Brian Dean
- Terry: Where is your "Bible is God's word" evidence? Rick Shumaker
- (Ron) The original church Brian Dean
- Logic books for historical studies Helen Willis
- The Burden of Proof Again Claire E. O'Connor
- Apocryphal Quotations Jason Filley
- Why [do] they do it, Matt? Joseph Crea
- NT citations from Apocrypha [was Re: Why they do it, Matt] Joseph Crea
- OT interpretation & application Greg Lovern
- The bible is God's word (evidence) Terry
- The Mary Magdalene Problem Again Peter B. Young
- (Ron) human life is sacred Peter B. Young
- 2 Esdras 1 Jason Filley
- Why they do it, Matt?(S.Carr) Matthew Bell
- Apocryphal Quotations(J.Filley) Matthew Bell
- Why can't you hear? Rick Gaudreau
- Re[2]: Mary M. Rick Gaudreau
- The Burden of Proof Again Claire E. O'Connor
- To Jones, you just keep steping in it. Re: Panther, Father of Jesus was: (Ron) Till's Fourth Volley Helen Willis
- Elephant Metaphor Shawn Browning
- Jones's Real Estate(Off List) walter nusbaum
- The "Worthiness" of Matt's Source Jason Filley
- Dick Jones civility test Greg Lovern
- Why Don't You Respond, Matt? Matthew Bell
- Philo's Reference to Genesis 46:27 Matthew Bell
- Paul Quoted Isaiah from the Septuagint (SteveCR) Matthew Bell
- The MT & the Septuagint & the NT Castonguay, Gregory
- Is that right Terry
- Such a FOOL!! Rick Gaudreau
- Re[4]: Mary M. Shawn Browning
- Re[2]: Elephant Metaphor Shawn Browning
- Dick Jones civility test D. T. Billings
- Is that Right Terry
- Busted? Terry
- The DICKSCRIPT Jason Filley
- Censoring the Dick Shawn Browning
- Nobody is perfect Terry
- the bible is the word of God Terry
- The DICKSCRIPT Greg Lovern
- Can somebody recap this LXX thing? jepler-errancy@zero.aec.at
- Busted? Rick Gaudreau
- (Ron) Catholic divorce Peter B. Young
- A question for the Monkey Man Greg Lovern
- Dick Jones civility test Greg Lovern
- Fwd: Re: Censoring the Dick SJane Weisiger
- Dick Jones civility test D. T. Billings
- Censoring SJANE's Dick Jason Filley
- Dick Jones passes civility test Greg Lovern
- A question from a Fool Greg Lovern
- The DICKSCRIPT Greg Lovern
- Dick Jones civility test Greg Lovern
- Censoring SJANE's Dick D. T. Billings
- The Talmuds Helen Willis
- the bible is the word of God Greg Lovern
- Using the Same Standards? (M.Bell - F.Till) Matthew Bell
- Genesis 46:27 (M.Bell - F.Till) Matthew Bell
- The LXX (The evidence) David Conklin
- The LXX (The evidence) OOPS! David Conklin
- Is BP a Ruckmanite? (M.Bell-F.Till) Matthew Bell
- The bible is the word of God Terry
- A Question for Matt (M.Bell-H.Willis) Matthew Bell
- overwhelming evidence Terry
- A question for a Fool John Hamilton
- Dick Jones passes civility test John Hamilton
- More Stupid harvey1
- A Question for Matt Helen Willis
- Dick Jones civility test Greg Lovern
- Re[2]: Censoring the Dick Shawn Browning
- Dick Jones passes civility test Greg Lovern
- Are Christians Irrational Claire E. O'Connor
- Hebrews 11:17 and Genesis 22 Curt van den Heuvel
- Monkey Man, the sociopath Greg Lovern
- Resurrection (fwd) Peter Kirby
- A Prophesy R. Jason Valentine
- Matthew's Quotation of Isaiah 7:14 Jason Filley
- Au revoir (until next month) Claire E. O'Connor
- Almah-Parthenos (M.Bell-S.Carr) Matthew Bell
- Matthew's Quotation of Isaiah 7:14 (M.Bell-F.Till) Matthew Bell
- Paul Quoted Isaiah from the Septuagint (M.Bell-SteveCR) Matthew Bell
- God creates evil (D.WALTON) Peter B. Young
- Dick Jones passes civility test Greg Lovern
- More on Judaism Re: The Talmud, of which there is only ONE Helen Willis
- Almah-Parthenos D.R. Edwards
- almah/parthenos for Matt Helen Willis
- Opps corrected (parallax) Shawn Browning
- To Crea re Mettaa Ling Zhong Xie
- Till in agrrement? Ling Zhong Xie
- Samuel Clemens Peter B. Young
- errancy James M. Breithaupt
- anyone can be skeptical (Nancy) Terry
- "Unwilling taxpayers" support all sorts of organizations besides churches. Claire E. O'Connor
- (Ron) A Final Reply to Jones Brian Dean
- (Ron) Panther, Father of Jesus was: (Ron) Till's Fourth Volley(D.JONES) Brian Dean
- anyone can still be skeptical Terry
- A Question for Matt (M.Bell-J.Crea) Matthew Bell
- Almah-Parthenos (M.Bell-F.Till) Matthew Bell
- almah/parthenos for Matt (M.Bell-H.Willis) Matthew Bell
- Almah-Parthenos (M.Bell-D.Edwards) Matthew Bell
- To Dick Jones Helen Willis
- Denver Post columnist says (gasp!) Religion Spawned Sexism Helen Willis
- frustrated Peter B. Young
- Is Till a Closet Theist? (to Farrell) David Court
- Jeff Roulier Peter B. Young
- Fw: Almah-Parthenos Brian Dean
- Your name please Terry
- Terry reneges on his "Bible is God's word" promise? J. Michael McGill
- To Peter B. Young Terry
- Paine on the "word of God" Michael Koller
- Shumaker Terry
- little creatures Terry
- Till in agrrement? Please read Mr Till... Ling Zhong Xie
- ducking and dodging Terry
- To Bridean Terry
- Evolution & Creation J. Michael McGill
- Rubbing it in! Brian Dean
- Durash Brian Dean
- To Bridean [for Terry re population figures] Joseph Crea
- Jesus/NT-Venerating Christians Jason Filley
- The bible is God's word (for Terry) Steve Carson-Rowland
- Christians on Muslims Steve Carson-Rowland
- Muslim apologists Steve Carson-Rowland
- Christians on Muslims #2 Steve Carson-Rowland
- Textual Reliability of the Scriptures (M.Bell-SteveCR) Matthew Bell
- Not so fast Crea Terry
- Gospel Advocate article (to Farrell Till) sdrye
- Fwd: Re: [ASTRO] Fwd: Opps corrected (parallax) J. Michael McGill
- Jesus/NT-Venerating Christians (M.Bell-F.Till) Matthew Bell
- Jesus/NT-Venerating Christians (M.Bell-J.Filley) Matthew Bell
- I will let them speak for themselves Terry
- Another argument for Christianity/crucifixion Brian Dean
- (Ron) the sins of the Catholic Church for Ron Brian Dean
- PROOF Ryan.Scotts@match.org
- general Terry
- Fw: intentionally private post-not any more Sara and/or John Hamilton
- speak for themselves Terry
- About atheist schoolteachers, public officials Claire E. O'Connor
- Errancy archive address (Re: Gospel Advocate article (to Farrell Till)) jepler-errancy@zero.aec.at
- Christians knowledge of the OT (was Re: Jesus/NT-Venerating Christians....) Steve Carson-Rowland
- move on Terry
- Jesus Seminar David Conklin
- FW: intentionally private post-not any more John Hamilton
- JEDP David Conklin
- Fw: move on Brian Dean
- Debating Craig David Conklin
- OT non-ceremonial laws ignored today David Conklin
- Proof Castonguay, Gregory
- get a life ! Terry
- Cool Terry
- Fw: intentionally private post-not any more Rick Shumaker
- John Hamilton Terry
- Rick Terry
- Off Topic- Correction of "Dr." Dicks errors John Hamilton
- FW: Cool John Hamilton
- Matt Relaxes His Standards Steve Carson-Rowland
- (Ron) The bible is God's word (for Terry) Brian Dean
- Hello Steve Terry
- Bridean Terry
- Hamilton please Terry
- About atheist schoolteachers, public officials Rick Gaudreau
- Till hit the nail on the head J. Michael McGill
- (Ron) Matt Relaxes His Standards Brian Dean
- (Ron) More of Ron's Evasion Brian Dean
- (Ron) Consistent Since Its Inception? Brian Dean
- (Ron) Atheistic Schools? Brian Dean
- (Ron) intentionally private post-not any more Brian Dean
- Fw: Durash with line wrap problems fixed Brian Dean
- Crea Terry
- Wishlist Jason Filley
- pointless Terry
- The Bible's own claims (was informatively, Hello Steve) Steve Carson-Rowland
- unfullfilll Terry
- No he is not Terry
- We see who quitting Terry
- A little off topic GShafer@xypoint.com
- [Off-Topic] Humor Jason Filley
- This Is an Example of Papal Infallibility? sdrye
- David's homework Castonguay, Gregory
- Proof (Conklin - Re-send) D.R. Edwards
- David's Homework Castonguay, Gregory
- Non-anonymous gospels (was Re: Jesus/NT-Venerating Christians (M.Bell-J.Filley)) Steve Carson-Rowland
- label your posts Greg, Nancy, and James Todd
- (Ron) When You Can't Answer.... Brian Dean
- (Ron) About atheist schoolteachers, public officials Brian Dean
- origin of word clergy Greg, Nancy, and James Todd
- Textual Reliability of the Scriptures Greg, Nancy, and James Todd
- more on clergy/kleroo Greg, Nancy, and James Todd
- 1 discussion with John Terry
- Jesus is watching you Terry
- Fw: Fw: (Ron) Borgia to Ron Brian Dean
- "Jones" Jason Filley
- (Ron) This Is an Example of Papal Infallibility? Brian Dean
- The Primacy of Mark [was: PROOF] JNC2885
- Fwd: Defunct Xian offshots sects was Re: A little off topic SJane Weisiger
- Human life is sacred Larry D. Enger
- 2 God is love to Hamilton Terry
- Ron) When You Can't Answer.... Brian Dean
- Oh, Dick Jones Helen Willis
- 3 God loves the world to John Terry
- Mary & the Apostles (M.Bell-F.Till) Matthew Bell
- 4 God loves the world to John Terry
- Homosexuals are cannibals! D. T. Billings
- 5 God loves the world and John also Terry
- Fw: Your chatter-box e-mails Greg, Nancy, and James Todd
- 6 God is love and he loves you to John Terry
- 6 God is love and he loves you to (do you mean too?) John Sara and/or John Hamilton
- New address Sara and/or John Hamilton
- Back on John Hamilton
- 7 god loves the World Terry
- David's Homework ; Tradition of Papias Castonguay, Gregory
- Fwd: Defunct Xian offshots sects was Re: A little off topic(for Jeff) SJane Weisiger
- Oh, Dick Jones Helen Willis
- Wrong Place Roger Taylor
- Non-anonymous gospels (was Re: Jesus/NT-Venerating
Christians (M.Bell-J.Filley)) David Conklin
- Debating Daniel David Conklin
- (Ron) The bible is God's word Helen Willis
- Non-anonymous gospels Steve Carson-Rowland
- talmud Greg, Nancy, and James Todd
- Raising the Dead Jason Filley
- (Ron) Human life is sacred Brian Dean
- Well Mr Till...... James M. Breithaupt
- Fw: Well Mr Till...... Brian Dean
- More on Jewish stuff and Jones' silliness Helen Willis
- Talmud and the Fool Nancy Helen Willis
- 8 God loves the world and you to John Terry
- Your too, Terry may be a transitional form. John Hamilton
- Importance of Numbers in the Bible SJane Weisiger
- (Ron) The bible is God's word Helen Willis
- Landover Baptist Church Rick Gaudreau
- LXX and Heb. 11:21 David Conklin
- 9 Gold loves the world and you too John Terry
- The Josephus Testimony Rick Gaudreau
- Terry, living proof that transitional forms are still with us John Hamilton
- Textual Reliability of the Scriptures (M.Bell-J.Filley) Matthew Bell
- Farrell Runs for Cover (M.Bell-F.Till) Matthew Bell
- Fw: Papias, a reliable source? Steve Carson-Rowland
- Relevant topics (M.Bell-R.Gaudreau) Matthew Bell
- Papias, a reliable source? Brian Dean
- What do you eat Helen? Terry
- Free will AWHALL
- Hello Hall D. T. Billings
- For Terry, What goes around doesn't neccessarily come around John Hamilton
- A Final Reply to Jones Peter B. Young
- Fwd: Re: Importance of Numbers in the Bible(for Dickhead) SJane Weisiger
- Fwd: Re: Importance of Numbers in the Bible SJane Weisiger
- 10 God loves the world and you to John Terry
- Importance of Numbers, continued SJane Weisiger
- Importance of Numbers in the Bible (to Dick) SJane Weisiger
- Free will [M.Bell-F.Till) Matthew Bell
- free will (to Matt) Terry
- A Final Reply to Jones (for Dick) SJane Weisiger
- Fwd: Re: query SJane Weisiger
- Order from disorder, lets settle it. John Hamilton
- query SJane Weisiger
- A Final Reply to Jones(to Dick)to Rick) SJane Weisiger
- 11 God loves the world and you to John Terry
- query Rick Shumaker
- query Rick Shumaker
- Powerhouse Survey! Ryan.Scotts@match.org
- 11 God may love me, but does he love foolish liars? John Hamilton
- Farrell Runs for Cover (M.Bell-S.C.Rowland). Matthew Bell
- (Ron) human life is sacred Helen Willis
- Here's one for Ron Rick Gaudreau
- Metger's Book (Steve C-R) D.R. Edwards
- Church-State Separation Rick Shumaker
- Farrell Runs for Cover (M.Bell-J.Epler). Matthew Bell
- ERROR, ERROR! David Conklin
- Terry's blatant plagiarizing John Hamilton
- No belief in gods = religious faith? Rick Shumaker
- No belief in gods = faith? Rick Shumaker
- attachments Greg, Nancy, and James Todd
- Dick Jones J. Michael McGill
- Free will (M.Bell-Awhall) Matthew Bell
- Church-State Separation (to Dick Jones) J. Michael McGill
- A thought about atheist versus Christian morality Brian Dean
- OOPS AGAIN! David Conklin
- Elam David Conklin
- A thought about atheist versus Christian morality (M.Bell-B.Dean) Matthew Bell
- Farrell Runs for Cover (M.Bell-D.Edwards). Matthew Bell
- Farrell Runs for Cover (M.Bell-H.Willis). Matthew Bell
- Terry's honesty GShafer@xypoint.com
- No belief in gods = faith? Rick Shumaker
- Errancy = faith? Rick Shumaker
- 12 God loves the world Terry
- Where is it written Terry
- What do you eat Helen? Jeff
- choir boys without a choir Terry
- I would like to know Terry
- 13 God loves the world Terry
- 14 God loves the world Terry
- Letter of Aristeas & Papias Steve Carson-Rowland
- Gospel Authors and Dates David Conklin
- (Ron) Farrell Runs for Cover (M.Bell-F.Till) Brian Dean
- Letter of Aristeas & Papias(M.Bell-S.C.Rowland) Matthew Bell
- Correction of the Bible and rape of minors Helen Willis
- No belief in gods = faith? Rick Shumaker
- 15 God loves the world Terry
- Age of accountability (to Farrell) Michael Vaujin
- 16 God loves the world Terry
- Science & The Bible(to Dick Jones) J. Michael McGill
- Science and studying reality(to Dick Jones) J. Michael McGill
- Old Testament scripture of resurrection of Jesus Christ J. Michael McGill
- No belief in gods = faith? Rick Shumaker
- 16 If god loves the little children why do 7 out or 10 of them spontaineously abort? John Hamilton
- God loves self replicating molocules John Hamilton
- (Ron) No belief in gods = religious faith? Brian Dean
- (Ron) Re:Church-State Separation Brian Dean
- 17 God loves the world Terry
- Gospel Authors and Dates (M.Bell-D.Jones). Matthew Bell
- God *really* loves those self replicating molecules. John Hamilton
- Fw: (Ron) Re:Church-State Separation Brian Dean
- It replicates...It mutates...Its...a molecule John Hamilton
- Language of Jesus and the Apostles (M.Bell-D.H.Willis). Matthew Bell
- Language of Jesus and the Apostles Re: Gospel Authors and
Dates (M.Bell-D.Jones). David Conklin
- 18 God loves the world Terry
- Gravity isn't scientifically proven? Terry
- Do hares chew the cud? Terry
- (Ron) Re:Church-State Separation Larry D. Enger
- 19 God loves the world Terry
- (Ron) Re:Church-State Serparation Larry D. Enger
- No they Didn't to Helen Terry
- Age of accountability (to Farrell) Michael Vaujin
- hares chewing the Cud Terry
- Hares Do chew the Cud? Terry
- Science's Laws Helen Willis
- wrong amendment Helen Willis
- Hares chewing cud Terry
- (Ron) Ron and sex..... Steve Kolb
- quote David Conklin
- Scriptures account to McGill Terry
- Hares chewing Cud? Terry
- (Ron) Can Ron Understand Plain Language? Brian Dean
- Marbury v. Madison for Johnson (off topic) and probably very boring for non Americans Helen Willis
- (Ron) Muslim unbelief in the crucifixion (was: Hares
chewing cud) Adnan
- quote (M.Bell-F.Till) Matthew Bell
- Language of Jesus and the Apostles (M.Bell-S.C.Rowland). Matthew Bell
- (Ron) wrong amendment long and off topic Brian Dean
- (Ron) Muslim unbelief in the crucifixion (was: Hares chewing cud) Brian Dean
- Hares chew the Cud Terry
- Other saviors of the world J. Michael McGill
- (Ron) Muslim unbelief in the crucifixion (was: Hares chewing cud) J. Michael McGill
- 20 God loves the world ( to Hamilton) Terry
- Faith & Science J. Michael McGill
- She dances to her own tune (to Helen) Terry
- words & concepts, semantics J. Michael McGill
- she dances to her own tune! Terry
- Ron goes off the deep end Helen Willis
- A Look at Hosea 6:1-3 David Conklin
- The rant somewhat cleaned up for Ron Helen Willis
- Ron's dear friend Brian Terry
- Re. quote (M.Bell-F.Till) by way of David Conklin Terry
- 20 Publish your papers quick, reserve your place in Science history John Hamilton
- you dance to your own tune also (to Bridean) Terry
- To the Trinity of Greg, Nancy, and James Terry
- 21 God loves the world Terry
- Yes, she does! was She dances to her own tune Helen Willis
- 21 Just another "silly pointless" post. John Hamilton
- To Hamilton Terry
- To Rick G. Terry
- Terry's lousy writing Greg, Nancy, and James Todd
- David, please explain? Helen Willis
- David, please explain? David Conklin
- David, please explain? Helen Willis
- David, please explain? Joseph Crea
- David, please explain? David Conklin
- David, please explain? David Conklin
- David, please explain? David Conklin
- David, please explain? Joseph Crea
- David, please explain? David Conklin
- David, please explain? Joseph Crea
- David, please explain? David Conklin
- David, please explain? David Conklin
- To the trinity of Nancy, Greg and James Terry
- Risen Saints (1 - Translations of Matthew 27:51-53) Jason Filley
- Risen Saints (3 - Questions) Jason Filley
- Risen Saints (0 - Intro) Jason Filley
- Risen Saints (4 - Noncanonical References) Jason Filley
- Risen Saints (2 - Chronology) Jason Filley
- King James Bible Matthew Bell
- David Conklin, among your books...... Helen Willis
- stop being a fool wayne K
- To the trinity of Nancy's Terry
- To Michael the lying Koller Terry
- God loves the world, but will he respect us in the morning? John Hamilton
- Promise keepers to Crea Terry