(Ron) Burial of Crucifixion Victims

D.R. Edwards dedwards@bae.uky.edu
Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:37:56 -0400 (00901215476, 000201bdb636$b7e884c0$2ec5a380@guido2.bae.uky.edu)



>>RON
>> The point is Edwards, that the ONLY crucified victim found by
>>archaeologists DID receive proper Jewish burial.
>
>EDWARDS
>Well, we have only a slight chicken-and-egg problem here. Of course,
the
>only one found received a proper burial - that's why he was found. And
my
>point is, only one has been found - given that there were many, many
other
>crucifixion victims, one would expect to find more victims if the
>historians are incorrect and proper burials after crucifixion were not
>uncommon.
>
>
>
RON There's no problem here. We have a case of a crucifixion victim who received proper burial. EDWARDS Agreed. RON Therefore the hypothesis that the Gospels could not be accurate because they indicate that Jesus received a proper burial is clearly disproven. EDWARDS This sounds like a straw man argument. I don't know of any informed student of the issue who would say that *no* crucifixion victims received proper burial, because they recognize that they're dealing with the balance of probabilities rather than a black-and-white issue. This exception does not tilt the balance of probabilities in favor Jesus' receiving a proper burial. RON Or did some divine spirit tell you that Jesus didn't recieve proper burial? EDWARDS I have no idea what you mean here. Whatever could be your motivation for asking such an unusual question? RON You are the guys who always want archaeological evidence! EDWARDS Yes, evidence has its advantages. RON Now that you have some you'd rather hold onto your cherished misconception. EDWARDS What do you mean by "cherished"? As to misconception, I don't think it has been established that the hypothesis that Jesus did not receive a proper burial is incorrect. Now, if we found Jesus' bones in a tomb in Jerusalem, that would be pretty powerful evidence ;-) You know, folks on this group have been aware of these bones for quite some time, just as they've been aware of Josephus' account of getting permission to have his friends removed from their respective crosses. The religious writers and historians who think it most likely that Jesus was either left to rot or buried in a shallow, common grave are aware of these bones and the Josephus account (who knows - maybe the bones belong to one of Josephus' friends). This is not a new story. The bones themselves prove nothing - they only validate what we knew before they were discovered, which was that there were exceptions. RON Don't you have enough other "theories" that you can afford to give up just one? EDWARDS I don't understand how the term "afford" is relevant here, but I'd be happy to subscribe to an alternate hypothesis given evidence that shifts the current balance of probabilities.