(Ron) By his carnage he is known. (another example of the death of 1000 qualifications)

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>DAVE EVERETT

>"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as

>a fighter."

>[Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922, published in "My New Order"]




>RON

>  Do you believe everything politician's say? Hitler may have believed

>in Christ. The Bible tells us "even the demons believe-and tremble"

>(James 2:19). So what is your point? Are you willing to accept every

>atheist as your representative? If not, then what is your point?



KOLLER
Why do I get the impression that nothing would convince Ron.  It seems that
he wishes to kill this theory of his by qualifying it over and over as more
evidence is piled up it.  Ron, there is nothing in Hitler's writings to
suggest that he was an atheist, but there is more than sufficient evidence
to indicate that he was a theist, deluded as he may have been.  Hitler
certainly was not the first theist to evoke religious symbolism to justify
his atrocities, and he's not likely to be the last.

But let's suppose for the sake of an argument, it was conceded that Hitler
was an atheist.  Exactly how do you go about establishing cause and effect
between his lack of belief and his actions?  What evidence can you propose
that would lead one to conclude that such a relationship exists?  Who,
knows, maybe us atheists will use the same (il)logic as theists and claim
that Hitler wasn't a real atheist!!

BTW, I recently concluded an online debate where a Christian was asserting
that (1) Hitler was an atheist; and (2) because of that, he committed his
atrocities.  After posting about 300 lines of quotes by Hitler and his
henchmen regarding Hitlers beliefs and motivations, this Christian ran away
from the debate and in typical religionist fashion refused to admit he was
wrong.

If Till is willing to permit the lengthy post, I'll be glad to do the same
for Ron who I am confident will not admit he is wrong; but I'll enjoy seeing
his assertions shot down all the same.

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