(Ron) Borgia to Ron

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> RICK G

> Ron, your answer is, frankly, ridiculous. Has not Peter, allegedly the 

> first pope, in a supposed god-inspired book, said...

<SNIP> 

> According to your own religious hanbook, the bible, popes like Borgia 

> should have been considered as a heretic and shunned by Christians.

 

> RON

>   The verse you cite indicates only that such a person will be rewarded 

> according to his works. Even a pope can go to hell. It says nothing 

> about being "proper" anything, so don't add your thoughts to the 

> scripture. Your understanding of the word "heretic" is in error. A 

> heretic would be someone who KNOWINGLY misdirects the faithful in 

> matters of doctrine. Where did Borgia do this?


RICK G
Ron, did you read the context of 1Tim 3, or Titus 1? I think not! The 
qualifications of both elders and deacons EXCLUDED men like Borgia because 
of his perversions and his blatant use of political power to rule like a lord over 
"the faithful".

And that's not to mention Matthew 7:15, in which Jesus warns his disciples 
about false prophets --the Pharisees of his day-- and how a good fruit cannot 
come from a bad tree and vice versa. Do you really think that this excludes all 
the those perverted and power hungry popes down through history. If so, then 
Roman Catholics are even more gullible than I originally thought.

Are you THAT gullible??? Do you actually believe that Borgia didn't 
KNOWINGLY misdirect "the faithful"??? Pleeease!!! Give us a break here, will 
ya!!!



Rick Gaudreau
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