(Ron) Borgia to Ron

Brian Dean bridean@worldnet.att.net
Mon, 4 May 1998 18:47:14 -0400 (00894340034, 19980504223555.AAA18764@briandea)


RICK G
Ron, your answer is, frankly, ridiculous. Has not Peter, allegedly the 
first pope, in a supposed god-inspired book, said...

1Pe. 5:1 ¶ The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an 
elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the 
glory that shall be revealed:
2  Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight 
thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready 
mind;
3  Neither as being lords over God's heritage, BUT BEING ENSAMPLES TO 
THE FLOCK. (emphasis mine)
4  And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of 
glory that fadeth not away.   

And has not Paul & Jesus said basically the same thing in these 
passages?

2Co 12:14,15 1Ti 3:3,8 Tit 1:7,11 2Pe 2:3 Re 18:12,13
Mt 20:25,26 23:8-10 Mr 10:42-45 Lu 22:24-27

The premise of these verses is that one who acts contrary to these 
cannot properly be called a Christian leader. Or, have the teachings 
of Jesus, Paul and Peter, been relegated to just being quaint sayings 
by your church?

According to your own religious hanbook, the bible, popes like Borgia 
should have been considered as a heretic and shunned by Christians.

RON
  The verse you cite indicates only that such a person will be rewarded 
according to his works. Even a pope can go to hell. It says nothing 
about being "proper" anything, so don't add your thoughts to the 
scripture. Your understanding of the word "heretic" is in error. A 
heretic would be someone who KNOWINGLY misdirects the faithful in 
matters of doctrine. Where did Borgia do this?