(Ron) Borgia to Ron

Rick Gaudreau grgaud@bigfoot.com
Sat, 2 May 1998 12:54:31 -0400 (00894146071, 199805021654.MAA29398@hme0.mailrouter01.sprint.ca) 


> RON

>   Once again, the personal virtue of the particular pope is irrelevent 

> to the Divine guidance concerning matters of faith and doctrine. Can you 

> cite any examples of Borgia making such pronouncements not in line with 

> Church doctrine? If that was the case I would cease to consider myself a 

> "Roman" Catholic and would have to revise my understanding of 

> Catholicism and the Church. The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the 

> Holy Spirit prevents the popes from ruling in error on these issues 

> regardless of their "corrupt"ness or holiness.


RICK G
Ron, your answer is, frankly, ridiculous. Has not Peter, allegedly the first pope, 
in a supposed god-inspired book, said...

1Pe. 5:1 ¶ The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, 
and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that 
shall be revealed:
 2  Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not 
by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
 3  Neither as being lords over God's heritage, BUT BEING ENSAMPLES TO 
THE FLOCK. (emphasis mine)
 4  And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of 
glory that fadeth not away.   

And has not Paul & Jesus said basically the same thing in these passages?

2Co 12:14,15 1Ti 3:3,8 Tit 1:7,11 2Pe 2:3 Re 18:12,13
Mt 20:25,26 23:8-10 Mr 10:42-45 Lu 22:24-27

The premise of these verses is that one who acts contrary to these cannot 
properly be called a Christian leader. Or, have the teachings of Jesus, Paul 
and Peter, been relegated to just being quaint sayings by your church?

According to your own religious hanbook, the bible, popes like Borgia should 
have been considered as a heretic and shunned by Christians.


Rick Gaudreau
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