The original church

Brian Dean bridean@worldnet.att.net
Mon, 27 Apr 1998 06:20:32 -0400 (00893690432, 19980427100937.AAA22246@briandea)



>TOD
>You are truly ignorant of the New Testament.
DICK You are a truly ignorant LIAR. TOD
>The Catholic Church is
>founded on the teachings of Paul, and not the original teachings of the
>Jerusalem Church. They thought that the law was still in effect, the
>believed that circumcision was still a necessity, etc., that was the
>source of their conflict with Paul. If the Catholic Church is founded on
>the Jerusalem Church, then why do they subscribe to Paul's teachings
>instead of the Jerusalem Church's teachings? Why do they include the
>epistles of Paul in their Bible?
DICK You demonstrate you know nothing about Catholicism, the New Testament, the "teachings" of Paul, or the so-called Jerusalem Church. The law is still in effect and will be for all eternity, circumcision is still a necessity and will be for all eternity, etc. You commit the fallacy of strawman making up imaginary positions that don't exist in reality. Just how long and how deeply have you studied Catholicism? BRIDEAN What exactly is circumcision necessary for? DICK The Holy Catholic Church selected the books to make up the Bible. Not every truth was written down in the books they selected. BRIDEAN Like the truth that Jesus was not God? DICK What the hell does this non sequitur have to with anything? I certainly don't think anything about Saadia or the Ebonites both of whom are nonexistents. Can you point to them? No. They don't exist. You have much trouble in dealing with reality, which is what we have here and now. The past does not exist and is unreal. BRIDEAN In that case, you have no evidence that Jesus even existed, let alone founding a Catholic church. DICK There have been sinners from the first day Pope St. Peter took command of the church. The existence or nonexistence of the Ebonites or the Lutherites or the Calvinites does not affect or change in any way, shape, form or fashion anything about the one true church, the only church, from the day Jesus spoke to Pope St. Peter, to the church today headed by the present Pope. BRIDEAN Can you point to me somewhere in reality where Jesus says this to Peter? All you can show me is that it was written in some book called Matthew. But what did you say earlier about anything that is written? DICK I could write you pages on Sa'adia whose name and time you got wrong. He's better known as Sa'id Ibn Yusuf Al-Falyyumi. Have you read his works in the original Arabic? He was also a nut of the first magnitude who bounced from sect to sect. BRIDEAN How do you know this? Did you read this in some book? DICK Strawman. But I'll answer your silly question: Jesus is the Son of God is one uniquely Catholic dogma. The true start of the Catholic church was Jesus speaking to Peter. All the books of the New Testament were written by Catholics, St. Peter, St. Paul, St. John, etc. The only Christians who ever lived on this planet were Catholics. The term Catholic and Christian are the same word. BRIDEAN Then who wrote the Gospel of Thomas?