The Earth Shall Not Be Moved

Brian Dean bridean@worldnet.att.net
Sun, 26 Apr 1998 06:14:04 -0400 (00893603644, 19980426100332.AAA8598@briandea)



>DICK
>What I said was that you failed to comprehend
>is that a theory contradicts a law. The mean-
>valued theorem, not theory, obviously contradicts
>the mean-valued law.

>BRIDEAN
>What is the mean-valued law? Is this something you made up?
DICK No, it's the contradiction of the mean-valued theory. BRIDEAN So a contradiction of a theory is a law? In that case, if you say that there does not exist a c such that f'(c)=(f(a) - f(b))/(a-b) are you stating the mean-valued law? In that case, is there such a thing as Einstein's law of non-relativity?
>DICK
>This only proves you're a fool,

>BRIDEAN
>Is this yet another FALLACY OF HUMOR AND RIDICULE?
DICK No, certainly not. When there is demonstrative proof that you're a fool, then it's a logical conclusion and an empirical fact. BRIDEAN Such as your 2" wong?
>DICK
>since no theory proves anything about reality. The
>theory that time exists is nothing but a theory. The
>theory that motion is real is nothing but a theory. You
>claim guess after guess are reality when they're
>nothing but guesses. There is some scientific
>evidence that motion is simply an illusion and
>does not in fact exist, that things wink out of
>existence at one point and wink back into existence
>a minute distance away. Reality is quantum in
>nature, not analog, so any guesses about speed
>are wrong. It appears nothing moves.

>BRIDEAN
>Well I thought you didn't go by mere appearances.
DICK Mere appearances? Where did you get that idea? I say mere appearances are usually the best source of knowledge human beings have, surpassing even faith, and far, far, far above reason. BRIDEAN Hmm, where did I get that idea? I simply read what you said immediately above. It is sort of like, hmm let me guess, the last sentence?
>> It
>> has been less than 40 years since I took calculus, and I have had
>> a relatively minor discovery of mine, calculus related, published in
>> Ireland.

>DICK
>Is this one of those boasts and brags that Tilly
>and the others condemn so heartily?

>BRIDEAN
>Ok, I will wager you, right on this list. Give me evidence that
>I can verify that your daughter was published and I will give you
>evidence that I was published.
DICK I don't give a shit whether you wrote the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. Why should I? You're a fool, not knowing how to know reality. I gave you ample information to find my daughter's initial publication, just as I could now find yours. I didn't question your statement since Irish publication is not much of a boast. But when I state facts about myself, the mob here goes into frenzies. BRIDEAN But I do not boast. I merely stated a fact that you can verify if you contact a professor in Ireland by the name of Ray Ryan. DICK Do you know the meaning of the term wager? You appear to offer a trade, a trade where I have nothing to gain. BRIDEAN Well, I don't imagine that a multi-millionaire would have anything to gain by being on an errancy list in the first place, other than to waste time. Seems like you would have more fruitful things to do. Given your tastes in women, perhaps staking out the nearest High School might be a good place to start.
>DICK
>But math is only a silly game played by fools who
>overrate its importance in reality. My daughter
>abandoned it for something that paid some real
>money.

>BRIDEAN
>I both did, and didn't abandon it for something that pays real
>money.
DICK Not surprising, but I seriously doubt that it's true. BRIDEAN Well, if you are as smart as you say you are, you would be able to verify where I am currently employed at. I will give you a hint, it is not McDonalds.
>DICK
>Mathematical proofs are just like logical proofs.
>They prove only internal consistency and have
>nothing whatever to do with reality. Words and
>symbols are far more misleading than pictures.

>BRIDEAN
>Oh really?
DICK Yes really!
>Don't tell that to Mathematicians I know.
DICK It's likely that I won't but your command will not be the deciding factor.
>(Including a tenured professor at the University of Pittsburg
>by the name of Chris Lennard, there one of my sources)
DICK Tenured professors are the worst kind. Those without tenure at least try. U Pit is hardly first class. What's a source? BRIDEAN I would wager that Chris Lennard has more knowledge of Mathematics than you do. He also knows me pretty well, and had some imput into getting me published.
>They can provide you with some alledged proofs using pictures
>that are actually wrong. I can prove that the distence from
>one corner of a unit square, to it's opposite corner, is actually
>2 and not the square root of two if I use pictures.
DICK You can't prove anything with pictures since you have no idea what proof is. There are false pictures just as there are false statements and false equations. BRIDEAN But there exists a path, which gets closer and closer to being a straight line from one diagonal to the other which ALWAYS has length 2. It would be easy to draw a picture to show you what that path is, but not very easy to explain it.
>DICK
>Do good enough? And yes, I've looked at vectored
>valued functions and found them of zero interest.
>My daughter, while at Huntsville a few years back
>on a semi-secret project found an error in NASA
>orbit calculations that was causing problems with
>military satellite launches. She received an award
>from the Defense Department.

>BRIDEAN
>And I am sure that she found the error using the truth ...
DICK No, she used the silly game of math, but then she knows it's only a silly game and not the truth. She saved the taxpayers millions of dollars since they planned to junk the satellite which was inoperative as it was, so her grateful government gave her a letter. But it was signed by a real human. I guess. BRIDEAN Well well well, some silly game called Mathematics had some influence on something empirically there, like a satellite. There is a friend of mine who is writing computer software used for tracking jet airplanes from satellites and giving the pilot weather information. If you want to verify this, his name is Lou Worrellia and he works at a company called Executive Jet. Since you are a gazillionaire you have probably heard of Executive Jet haven't you?
>And I am sure that she found the error using the truth that
>everything is God, the Catholic church is the true church
>and that Arius taught the truth. Again, show me your sources
>and I will show you mine.
DICK She did use the truth that everything is God since there is no other possibility. But I never implied that the Catholic church is the true church. FALLACY OF STRAWMAN. I never implied that Arius taught ANY truth. FALLACY OF STRAWMAN. I used Arius as PROOF of the FALLACY OF FALSE GENERALIZATION that ALL Christians say Jesus is God. You need to improve your reading skills, so you wouldn't commit such obvious fallacies. BRIDEAN But you agree with Arius that Jesus was not God. Interesting.
>Again, show me your sources
>and I will show you mine.
DICK If you were a 16 year-old female this might be possible but since it's only Tilly's challenge of a 5 year-old fool, not interested. Sources are the FALLACY OF APPEAL TO AUTHORITY. What is this odd game played on this list demanding tit for tat? BRIDEAN What difference does it make whether or not I am a 16 year old female? Oh, I forgot, you like little girls don't you? And where do you get 5 year old from. Is there some fascination you have with 5 year olds as well?