Truth and Fact

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TILL

> >> I have to disagree.  The second statement is truth, but the first one is not

> >> truth. If you had said that the Bible is a book THOUGHT TO BE authored by

> >> God, etc., then that would be truth.

> >>


ERIC

> >This is the first time I have ever disagree with you, Till, but I guess

> >it had to happen sometime. I think you missed the point of Gaudreau's

> >post. He was saying that facts are objective and provable.


TILL

> I can't agree with that.  There are many objective facts that we can't even

> know much less prove.


ERIC

> >Truths are subjective and are not. To you and I, the second truth is true

> and the

> >first is not. To a Christian, the first is true and the second is not.

> >While I have never thought of things quite like this before, I must say

> >that it is reasonable.


TILL

> If you will check dictionary definitions of "truth," you will find that they

> almost all define truth as that which conforms to fact or reality.  Anything

> that conforms to reality is a fact, but, of course, proving that it conforms

> to reality is another thing.  However, if it conforms to reality, then it is

> a truth, and if it is a truth, then it is a fact.

> 

> Farrell Till

> Skepticism, Inc.

> jftill@midwest.net


ERIC
I was not and am not trying to contradict the dictionary. I don't think
that was the intention of Edith either. As I said, what she said was
reasonable, within the context of her post. When she said truth, she
was referring to our own internal truths. Perhaps she could have been
clearer on that. But to get into an argument over something silly like
this is to miss the point entirely.
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