(Ron) By his carnage he is known. (another example of the death of 1000 qualifications)

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At 10:03 PM 5/31/98 -0400, Michael Koller wrote:


>Why do I get the impression that nothing would convince Ron.


FALLACY OF AD HOMINEM.


>It seems that

>he wishes to kill this theory of his by qualifying it over and over as more

>evidence is piled up it.


FALLACY OF EMOTIVE LANGUAGE and false.


>Ron, there is nothing in Hitler's writings to

>suggest that he was an atheist, but there is more than sufficient evidence

>to indicate that he was a theist, deluded as he may have been.


FALSE. Indicates a lack of knowledge as to what 
evidence is, and FALLACY OF FALSE DILEMMA. Hitler
was a well-known pagan who employed fortune-tellers
and diviners. He seemed to believe in a variety of
Nordic gods for a while, such as Thor.


>Hitler

>certainly was not the first theist to evoke religious symbolism to justify

>his atrocities, and he's not likely to be the last.


FALLACY OF DISTRACTION and FALLACY OF RED HERRING
and FALSE.


>But let's suppose for the sake of an argument, it was conceded that Hitler

>was an atheist. 


FALLACY OF STRAWMAN. No one suggested Hitler was
an atheist.


>Exactly how do you go about establishing cause and effect

>between his lack of belief and his actions?  What evidence can you propose

>that would lead one to conclude that such a relationship exists?  Who,

>knows, maybe us atheists will use the same (IL)logic as theists and claim

>that Hitler wasn't a real atheist!!


MINDLESS SPECULATION!!


>BTW, I recently concluded an online debate where a Christian was asserting

>that (1) Hitler was an atheist; and (2) because of that, he committed his

>atrocities.  After posting about 300 lines of quotes by Hitler and his

>henchmen regarding Hitlers [sic] beliefs and motivations, this Christian

ran away

>from the debate and in typical religionist fashion refused to admit he was

>wrong.


MEANINGLESS TRIVIA AND DRIVEL. FALLACY OF DISTRACTION.
FALLACY OF AD HOMINEM.


>If Till is willing to permit the lengthy post, I'll be glad to do the same

>for Ron who [sic] I am confident will not admit he is wrong; but I'll

enjoy seeing

>his assertions shot down all the same.


NOISE.

We can understand why this [atheist] "ran away from the
debate and in typical [atheist] fashion refused to admit he was
wrong. How long will this Fool hang around this time, before
he gives up on his silliness?

Dick Jones

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