Circular Reasoning
Alan Fuller arfuller@rocketmail.com
Mon, 12 Jan 1998 08:53:31 -0800 (PST) (00884645611, 19980112165331.2459.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com)
Fuller:
I think I mentioned earlier the who, why, and where
of creation found in the Bible.
---Alan Fuller <arfuller@rocketmail.com> wrote:
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> ---"Michael W. Fisher" <mwfisher@cts.com> wrote:
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> > Alan Fuller wrote:
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> > > Hi Till,
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> > > Good question. I have gone through part of the
> book
> > > of Mormon. By the way, I have read the entire
> Koran
> > > in English. I couldn't find the central issues
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> > > existance in either book. If I missed them,
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> > > you can help me out.
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> > > Since I didn't find the kind of information the
> > > Creator of the Universe would supply, I have
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> > > to doubt their authenticity.
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> > What kind of information would the "Creator of
> the Universe"
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> Fuller:
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> Well, I won't claim to understand the infinite, but
> the Creator my well express to his creation what he
> expects of it. In other words, He would communicate
> the information needed for the creation to exist.
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> > Why would he supply it?
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> My own understanding, it is a process of creation.
> For something to be what God wants it to be, it must
> have the information in the form the Creator deems
> necessary. If not, then it is not what the Creator
> wants. If I write a computer program, it is not what
> I want it to be unless I record the proper
> instructions.
> Then I must feed in the proper data.
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> > How do you know?
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> I don't. I was just giving some of my own ideas that
> make sense to me. I could quote a few scriptures,
> but you have probably already considered them.
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> > > Besides, there is better archaelogical evidence
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> > > the Bible, not that it is required.
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> > Any archaeological evidence for Jesus?
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> I think the first reference to christianity was like
> some grafitti on an ancient Greek wall or something.
> I'm sorry I can't remember the spefics. It is
> interesting that the tomb of Caiphas is believed to
> have been discovered. Josephus mentioned Jesus, did
> he not?
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> > For the great flood?
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> Well, I don't claim the flood is literal, although a
> local flood might have been possible,
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> > For Moses?
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> > For Abraham?
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> > For the garden of Eden?
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> > For anything of doctrinal importance?
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> I think I stated the greater truth of scripture is
> allegorical. Augustine wouldn't convert to
> Christianity until it was explained to him that some
> of the scriptures were meant to be understood
> allegorically. He had a problem with the creation
> account, as I did when I was about 11 years old. I
> was an atheist for a while, although I kept my
> opinions to myself.
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> > If so, please share.
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> > Ciao.
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> > --
> > Michael Fisher, ET1/SS USN ret., law student
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> http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html
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> > http://home.aol.com/Mfish6994
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> > ". . . a very LONG discussion is one of the
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> > effective veils of Fallacy: . . . A Fallacy
> which
> > when stated barely . . . would not deceive
> a child,
> > may deceive half the world if diluted in a
> quarto
> > volume"
> > Richard Whately, "Elements of
> Logic", p. 151
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