Third Day Resurrection

Farrell Till jftill@midwest.net
Thu, 08 Jan 1998 19:37:44 -0800 (00884338664, 2.2.32.19980109033744.00692ad8@midwest.net)


At 12:45 PM 1/7/98 PST, Alan Fuller wrote:

>Hello Mr. Till,
>
>Im am enjoying reading your article about "Prophecies: Imaginary and
>Unfulfilled." I find one of your points a little puzzling though.
>
>" In two different places, then, New Testament writers claimed that the
>resurrection of the Messiah on the third day had been predicted in the
>scriptures. Try as they may, however, bibliolaters cannot produce an Old
>Testament passage that made this alleged third-day prediction. It simply
>doesn't exist."
>
>Didn't Jesus supposedly indicate this referred to Jonah?
>
>Mat 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of
>a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in
>the heart of the earth.
>Jonah 1:17
>
>Doesn't this fit the criteria for a third day resurrection?
>
TILL No, it doesn't. Your mistake is in assuming that because the writer of Matthew SAID that Jesus SAID what you have quoted above, this has to mean that the writer of Jonah meant for the story of Jonah and the "great fish" to be a prophecy of the third-day resurrection of the Messiah, but that is a very flawed interpretation method. The writer of Jonah meant what he meant, and what someone living centuries later may have thought that he meant would in no way affect the meaning of what was originally intended. No matter how much you may analyze the story of Jonah and the great fish, you will nothing in the text that even remotely suggests that the writer intended this to be understood as a figurative prophecy of a distant resurrection. So if there is nothing at all in this story even to remotely imply that it was a resurrection prophecy, it doesn't matter what application of the story was made by someone who lived centuries later. I have serious doubts about the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth, but for the sake of argument, I will concede both that he existed and that he made the statement in Matthew 12:40. This would mean nothing more than that Jesus used the story of Jonah as a basis for a simile. I don't suppose you would be willing to argue that the application of a simile to a historical event would make the historical event a "prophecy," would you? If so, let me know, and I will show you how that just about any event claimed in the OT could be made into a figurative prophecy. My position remains the same. Jesus said that it had been written that the Christ would suffer and rise from the dead the third day. He had to be referring to the OT scriptures when he made this statement (if he did), because no other scriptures existed at the time. So if this statement was a true statement, I'd like for someone to show me where it was written that the Messiah would rise from the dead on the third day. I'd like for someone to show me where it was written even in the story of Jonah that the Messiah would rise from the dead the third day. It isn't there. No such prophecy existed. Farrell Till Skepticism, Inc. jftill@midwest.net